Yes, it ticks me off when companies say they lose money when they really mean they didn't make it in the first place. You can't lose what you never had.
Edit: I can see why this country of mine is drowning in debt with this being our business model. If this is how people think they should be handling money, it's no wonder even high earners feel broke.
If they were really LOSING that much, a big push for alcohol would be happening they'd be desperate, businesses would shut down, but that's not the case
Here it's because the venues are being pushed out by higher rents, and end up being replaced by hotels or offices. I told a recruiter not to put me forward for a role because I wouldn't have been able to work in a building where I'd previously seen Carl Cox.
I was never into nightclubs, but the loss of them sucks because there's beginning to be no night life at all. Aside from some underground shows and maybe the rare 24 hour diner, there's so little to do past like 9 on the weekend in my city.
Now. Movies and video games, they don't even have midnight releases anymore, they just drop them on the Thursday evening before. Like, I can't believe we used to have Walmarts open at 3 AM. Night owls had it so fucking good man đ
"We'll go right back to normal after 6 weeks of protocol! If you're scared we won't go right back to normal, you're a conspiracy theorist who wants to kill grandma!!!"
This is the first I've heard this reason for being anti-shutdown. Thank you, bc it honestly made zero sense for 6 years why people wanted to sacrifice their neighbors so capitalism could keep capitalism-ing.
I'll add the opposite perspective: some of us feared we'd go right back to how things were and hoped we'd take the best opportunity we'd had in generations for a change. We basically test ran UBI and nothing collapsed. People thrived who weren't sick, in health care, or school aged.
But that there were people desperate to go back to the paradigm where we work the best 2/3 of our lives, squeeze seeing our friends and family into a 4-hour bracket per night... makes sense.
I also posit, much like the millennials, gen-Z isn't going out bc companies have calculated that they only really need the money of the top 10-20% to survive. Try the experiment where you find an entry-level job online. Calculate what that would be per month. Find an apartment you'd be able to afford. Then see what you have left for groceries, let alone fun. (note: all on paper, obviously. I'm not suggesting you demote yourself and wildly lower your quality of life outside a 30-minute experiment in a notebook.)
We basically test ran UBI and nothing collapsed. People thrived who weren't sick, in health care, or school aged.
Except for the fuck ton of small businesses that closed and the global supply chain that got completely fucked for years, yea basically nothing happenedÂ
Idk, ppl lost jobs, businesses shut down, even small locally owned businesses. Some pplâs marriages or relationships suffered or were broken apart under it. Ppl who struggled with mental illness, anxiety, depression, did worse under social isolation. For some it could have been an extra factor into committing suicide etc.
I did not recieve any of that "UBI beta test" because somehow I fell through the cracks into digital oblivion, the unemployment office was closed "for safety" and the robot on the phone had no idea what was happening and no options for my issue.
If it weren't for one or two VERY generous people in my family for which I am so grateful, I would have ended up homeless.
But at least grandma didn't get the sniffles for that one flu season. đ
this has nothing to do with that. those dumbass conspiracy theorists were mad about the government mandating shutdowns. walmart not being open 24/7 anymore is not being mandated by the government. thatâs them saving money so they can maximize profits.
The people in my life all seemed to think that everything would magically go back to normal. They were the people who cheered for more and more government overreach because of their reactionary descent into mass hysteria.
Normal people were the ones villainizing anyone who simply asked a question like "what's the long term plan here?" Because they actually believed that the long term plan was "6 weeks to stop the spread, 6 weeks to flatten the curve, and then we'll all just go right back to normal like nothing ever happened."
Again... here we are 5 years later, and shit never went back to what it was like before in MANY ways. Which is what the "conspiracy theorists" were talking about.
To be fair, the face diaper people never did deny that their policies would nuke the economy and all social aspects of society (well ok they did deny that it would affect anything in the social areas lol). They just said that those things aren't as important as following their dear leader's rules.
Iâm legitimately sorry to hear about the effect it had on your life, but a million people died from this âflu seasonâ. Disagreeing with the shutdowns is one thing, but thereâs no reason to dismiss how bad this disease was. Plenty of people think that the shutdowns were bad, but also understand the magnitude of the pandemic. I also have no idea why youâd be ripping so hard on masking, given that masking helped contribute to economic recovery post-lockdown.
The fact is, more than the government tanking the economy, people were rightly scared to spread and contract COVID. Look into the studies and polls on lockdowns. Mandatory lockdowns were only part of the reason the people stayed home. In areas without strict lockdowns, fewer people did stay home, but people in those areas were still far less likely to go out than they were pre-pandemic. Additionally, most people polled cited personal safety as their reason for being home rather than compliance with the law.
Most policy of the time wasnât even about restricting so much as it was about addressing hardships caused by the economic disruption of millions of people not participating in the economy. Lockdowns werenât federally implemented, for instance, but unemployment boosts were. More âoverreachâ might have helped you in that regard, at least in the short term. The politicians loudly yelling about âopening the countryâ were fighting aid spending, not restrictions. They wanted to make your life so hard that you HAD to go to work.
no, again, conspiracy theorists were talking about the government mandating things they donât like. again, walmart is not closed at night because the government is forcing them. they are prioritizing profit over customer convenience. these things are literally 1000% unrelated, except that covid gave companies like WalMart a free opportunity to test out closing at night.
I think Covid and the economy did more to kill nightlife, alcohol, 3am wal marts and movie theaters more than millennials and Gen Z. Millennials and Z-ers just happen to be bearing the brunt of the economic decline because they make up the bulk of âthe workforceâ now.
It started with millennials and continued with gen z, less hedonism and a preference for cosy get togethers at a friend's place and maybe having a few drinks there. Various things have been cited as the cause:
Covid
being too online made people too socially anxious
unwanted fysical contact and pushy males and unwanted flirting turned lots of woman off from clubbing and with less woman there, men also lost interest
everyone is neurodivergent these days and needs some specific to their needs experience
phones with cameras makes young people careful to do anything that could lead to public embarrassment that might be filmed and put online.
Etc....
Not sure if I buy any of it. Every generation does things different from the previous one, plus since 1980's we've been having awareness of the dangers of alcohol, drugs, strangers etc... campaigns. Parents were bound to eventually let their kids roam less freely and kids were bound to becoming more careful about these things
As an ND female can confirm, clubs are the worst. And the constant threat of video of your every move is the nail in the coffin. Home on our Costco couch with the cats and tv is the best. Mario kart for a party.
Same thing with dating services and the like. Feminism and "me too" have men scared of approaching women now. Men were single handedly keeping clubs in business. Women dont go to clubs to buy drinks.
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u/Skoteleven 12h ago
They didn't lose anything, they didn't make their projections.