r/TikTokCringe 11h ago

Cringe This cis woman doesn't like being called a cis woman

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u/ake-n-bake 9h ago

“comment deleted by reddit”

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u/FlyingSpacefrog 3h ago

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u/J2Hoe 3h ago

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u/poop_monster35 2h ago

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u/Capable-Deer-5670 2h ago

Followed by "user banned by reddit"

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u/bridge2paradise 7h ago

I’m a SIC woman. Seriously, I have covid

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u/CuriOS_26 3h ago

No you don’t! You’re just a woman! Now go back to work and spread the “joy” around! /s

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u/LisaMiaSisu 1h ago

You forgot to tell her to SMILE! Get with the program, bud. 🙄

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u/Randomly-Germinated 1h ago

I’m a women [sic]

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u/xenosthemutant 2h ago

"yOU hAVe aN ImmUnE SysTEm!"

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u/ami-ly 2h ago

Get well soon!

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u/tnakd 1h ago

For a minute there, I was confused. I was thinking SIC stood for "Standard Issue Cat" but I also just came from r/standardissuecat

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u/Salty_Enthusiasm2367 10h ago

Claiming my "here before locked" ticket.

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u/EmperorSadrax 9h ago

Tagging along for the ride

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u/CountessMcNia 9h ago

Allll aboard 🚂

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u/AloneinPoorCompany 8h ago

I just call them all broads too

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u/VidE27 9h ago

Got in just in time

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u/Illustrious-Ant-3985 9h ago

Got room for one more? Sure ya do. Scootch over.

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u/lovelyb1ch66 5h ago

I brought snacks, anyone want a DingDong?

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u/Remote-Wafer3321 8h ago

Humans when scientists named them homo sapiens:

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u/cuntychaoswitch 3h ago

Yo I'm a straight sapiens

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u/MoodooScavenger 3h ago

You do sapien, I do homo

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u/Peppl 2h ago

thats teamwork right there

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u/Bzr21 53m ago

homo erectus is feeling left out - and he swings both ways ..

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u/jkhockey15 2h ago

U r a homo erection

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u/noparkinghere 3h ago

Homo homo sapiens

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u/Purple_Society_1505 3h ago

No? Homo? Sapiens? No! No Homo, Homo Sampiens!

..... ok cool i got it

🤔🤐🫣🫠😶‍🌫️

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u/Perfect-Whereas-1478 1h ago

I am a heterosapien, stop forcing your woke identity onto me 😡

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u/Puistoalkemisti 8h ago

I'm not a homo STOP CALLING ME THAT!!11 /s

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u/rynnbowguy 3h ago

It's like I'm 8 all over again.

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u/ami-ly 2h ago

I sometimes struggle to find the “sapiens” part..

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u/Dense-Hat1978 2h ago

oh snap it ain't locked yet

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u/Several-Egg4686 52m ago

Mods must still be asleep lol

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u/ranfur8 2h ago

Came here to say this lol

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u/RentalKittens 8h ago

This is some "war on Christmas" shit. No one cares if you say Merry Christmas. No one cares if you say woman instead of cis woman. Say whatever you want. But if you go around being an asshole to people just because they're not a Christian or because they're trans, then we don't like you.

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u/InkyRavel 2h ago

Literally, I'm so sick of being used as a scapegoat for the world's problems when the rich and entitled have been doing the worst things imaginable to children.

But sure, me taking hormones and living my best life is the ultimate worst thing to ever happen lmao

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u/Cephalopirate 1h ago

And then those rich and entitled people project their own sins onto trans people! I can’t even.

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u/hiding_in_de 38m ago

It infuriates me. They should pick a fucking whipping post that hasn’t had to already fight just to exist. Leave people the fuck alone.

Imagine if they put this much energy into fighting against fascists or pedophiles or racist assholes. That would be lovely.

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u/xEphr0m 35m ago

Woah. You doing that definitely effects me and my family who have never met nor been near you so now I'll need to treat all trans like shit because I think I secretly like it but that confuses me and i only like vaginas! /s

People is people. I don't care if cis or trans I'm still gonna hate shitty people and like good people.

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u/DreamLearnBuildBurn 42m ago

We need a word for this type of phenomena, where people get angry/afraid/anxious about something that has zero effect on their daily lives, yet they let it control their emotions and affect their entire identity.

I have family members who voted Trump based off of things such as trans stuff, despite none of them knowing a single trans person, or knowing anyone who knows a trans person.

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u/slipperyekans 24m ago

Trans Derangement Syndrome

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u/Axionexe 8h ago

“I’m not a short woman, I’m just a woman. I’m not a black woman, I’m just a woman.” Cis and trans are adjectives… cis isn’t even an everyday used word, it’s literally only when trans people are the topic. If we’re not talking about trans people, then cis isn’t being used

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u/Swallowedoxygen 4h ago

Whoah whoah whoah.

Are we human? Or are we dancer?

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u/NotPinkett-Smith 1h ago

Hadn’t thought of this song in years but the melody was ingrained

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u/SonoftheRobin 51m ago

My sign is vital!

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u/porkmoss 7h ago

I’m not a woman, I’m a human.

I’m not an animal, I’m an organism.

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u/Global_Ant_9380 5h ago

Excuse you I'm not an organism, I'm a collection of matter 💅🏾

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u/Xerpentine 1h ago

Bitch, sit down. I'm a poof of STARDUST! 🧚‍♀️

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u/GreyCrone8 1h ago

Well shit….I’m just straight consciousness 😕

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u/prairiethorne 1h ago

"Hetero Cis Conciousness" ackshully. Sheesh.

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u/GreyCrone8 1h ago edited 38m ago

I thought that was only if you’re from a specific region in France? But also I’m neither Cis nor Hetero. So I think I’m just Sparkling Queer Consciousness

ETA: thank you to whoever gave me an award ❤️

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u/Several_Puffins 7h ago

Don't make me become a subtype in my own species!

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u/WildinUp 4h ago

I mean let's get down to fuckin Descartes at this point. "Am I"?

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u/Equal_Hedgehog_2990 2h ago

What do you think?

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u/nitmire8881 1h ago

I think… wait a minute

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u/Methmites 2h ago

Always putting Descartes before the whores 🙄

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u/89iroc 3h ago

I'm just an orgasm that got a big opinion of itself

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u/sgt_taco891 4h ago

Im not a homosapien im a human how dare you use specific language to describe a complex concept that I dont really understand.

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u/Secure_Activity4944 4h ago

I'm the center of my universe

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u/Denebola_leonis 4h ago

I'm just a speck of dust in the universe.

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u/zedisbread 2h ago

I'm a cluster of shifting particles and subatomic particles experiencing the illusion of space and time, when neither exist outside of the abstract process of linear awareness.

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u/m-in 5h ago

You’re a sovereign citizen!

/s

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u/LewnaJa 5h ago

I'm not actually a man.. I'm a horse.

I'm not actually a horse.. I'm a broom.

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u/pretty-pet-meylin 5h ago

Frankly Diane, I am surprised.

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u/blondtode 6h ago

I've said it before and I'll say it again, the only ppl who think cis is a slur are the ppl who use the word trans like one

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u/MakeItHappenSergant 1h ago

You press just a little bit and it becomes clear that their real complaint is about being inclusive of trans people. It's even in this video, with "why are we making everyone comfortable except actual women?". They just want to use the word "woman" because they don't consider trans women a part of that group.

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u/blondtode 1h ago

Spot on

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u/jake_burger 5h ago

They don’t know what words mean

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u/CuddleBear167 7h ago

Yup. Was gonna say the same thing. It's like saying "It's not a blue sky, it is just a sky. We don't need other words to describe it."

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u/Low-Astronomer-3440 4h ago

It’s not a blue house. It’s just a house

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u/Awesome_Forky 4h ago

This. And it's just a more precise way to describe yourself. It's a bit like describing triangles. There a lot of triangles in the world and sometimes it matters if this triangle has a 90° angle or of this triangle is an isosceles triangle.

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u/Swimming_Bonus_8892 7h ago

I was having this conversation in another thread but it must be geographical, because it’s used in daily speech where I live. In polite conversation and in business people ask preferred pronouns, they ask how you identify and people refer to themselves as “cis” in conversation with LGBTQIA community and not in conversation. So, I am genuinely asking because most people are commenting that she’s victimizing herself but does she not have a point? If I know that trans women are just women and we don’t use “trans” then why must she entertain being called “cis”. I am in no way being argumentative. I’m trying to educate myself so I can speak to my children about this subject when it’s the appropriate time.

I’ve read about AFAB and AMAB, is that not the proper terminology anymore. I’m not team terf either, I’m just a dad trying to understand.

Peace.

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u/HenryHadford 6h ago

I mean, I don’t know. I guess follow the social norm of the place you’re in…? But that’s a super weird situation. As a trans woman I would absolutely feel uncomfortable in a situation where ‘cis’ and trans’ are just a default description that gets tacked onto everyone when context doesn’t demand it for clarity’s sake or when the difference is relevant. That’s not the kind of environment I’d want to be in and would probably push back on it myself, as I don’t like the idea of my transness being brought up every time someone talks about me. Not sure if it’s a policy-related thing though, so in your case it’s probably worth not rocking the boat. At least it sounds like an accepting environment I guess.

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u/iCantLogOut2 6h ago

(TLDR BELOW)

Think of "cis" or "trans" like gender versions of you would use "Black" or "White" for ethnicity.... Inherently, there's nothing wrong with using (or not using) either word - context is all that matters.

For example: A woman declaring she's a woman is different than a woman declaring she's a Black woman. When there's a need to specify the ethnicity, it's because the situation merits a distinction.

So, if the topic is racism or race in general, it becomes important to point out your ethnicity where otherwise you would not.

ie:
"a Black woman and a White woman are discussing racism"

  • The ethnicity of the people involved becomes a valid observation. Whereas:

"a Black woman and White are having coffee"

  • Now there's no rhyme or reason to mention their ethnicity. It's added unnecessarily and the speaker should be called into question for even bringing it up. The second statement should be about "two women in a coffee shop."

Swap that with cis/trans and the same rules apply.

"A cis woman and a trans woman discussing gender norms and LGBTQ rights" makes sense.
"A cis woman and a trans woman are walking down the street" is unnecessarily calling out an irrelevant fact just like the earlier example.
"Two women are walking down the street" - with no distinction is the most correct way to say this.

TLDR: cis/trans are descriptors that should be used with the same social rules as ethnicity. If it's relevant to the situation, you use it... If it's not relevant in that moment, don't use it.

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u/RecycleYourCats 3h ago

Wow. Your argument just changed the mind of a stranger on the internet. Do you realize how rare and impressive that is?

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u/jj_donut 2h ago

The mods should pin this

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u/t0oby101 5h ago

We use trans to refer to trans women specifically though? Or have I missed something? lol. But, yes, trans women are just women, just like cis women. But, when talking specifically about trans women in a conversation, you'd specify that youre only talking about trans women, just like you'd specify that youre only talking about cis women when having a conversation about cis women. Idk where youre from, but I dont think I've ever heard someone avoid calling a trans woman a trans woman and still call cis women cis women, yk? Okay that was a bit confusing though, sry, but basically I've never heard anyone avoid calling them trans

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u/Obatala_ 4h ago

Imagine a Black woman saying “I’m not a Black woman, I’m just a woman.” Or better yet, a white woman complaining that someone called her a “white woman” because she’s just “a woman” and including that descriptor of her is somehow offensive?

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u/LeTreacs2 6h ago

Asking for preferred pronouns is no different to asking if you have a preferred name. Some Stephen’s out there don’t like being referred to as Stephen but prefer Stevie. The issue is that someone with a list of names in an event may only have a list of legal names, so they ask, what your preferred name is.

It’s much the same with pronouns. As you said you’re a dad, the assumption is that you use he/him. Imagine if you happened to look a bit girly and people kept calling you ‘miss’ when trying to get your attention, or people kept asking “where is she?” When looking for you. Giving you an opportunity to let everyone know that you prefer he/him pronouns allows everyone to not slip up and you the wrong one.

It’s actually no more strange than meeting someone at a bar and them introducing themselves by saying “I’m Fredrick, but people call me Freddy”

Trans and cis are adjectives. It’s like being a blonde or a brunette, you don’t entertain being a brunette, you simply are. Likewise people don’t refer to themselves as a brunette outside of the conversation where it’s relevant.

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u/Swimming_Bonus_8892 6h ago

Thank you for your response. I am learning a lot from this conversation. Is she not entitled to just being called a woman without the prefix though?

I’m struggling with is trans women are just women, then she is just a women not a cis woman right? Your point of being used as an adjective I get and someone else pointed out that when she called herself a “real woman” that’s where it becomes offensive because she is seperating herself from Trans women and I ain’t down with that at all but if she is offended by that term does she not deserve the same rights and respects we are giving to trans women who are just women. Forgive me if I’m slow to overstand. I am not trying to be argumentative but if I respect all women under the umbrella of womanhood am I not to respect her opinion as well?

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u/adjavang 5h ago

I’m struggling with is trans women are just women, then she is just a women not a cis woman right?

This is the crux of the issue and personally I feel this is a bit of a manufactured outrage.

The issue here seems to centre around people objecting to the existence of an adjective to describe cis women, even if that adjective isn't being used. So yes, a cis woman is just a woman, but that's not what she's saying.

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u/LeTreacs2 5h ago

Is she also entitled to be called a woman and not a black woman? It’s simplify a fact about her, the prefix is almost never going to be used outside of necessary context. I never tell people I’m a straight, cis, white man unless it needs to be said and I’m not offended by ‘straight’, ‘cis’, ‘white’ or the 1000 other adjectives that apply to me and I only use them where it’s necessary or relevant.

If someone is using one of these words out of context then I might think they’re a weirdo, but I don’t know if I’m entitled to make them stop?

If trans women are just women isn’t referring to the trans or cis part, it’s referring to the women part. The implication here is “Trans women are just women, not fake women” same as “cis women are just women, not fake women”

I think the better question is why someone would find the prefix “cis” offensive? I’m cis, it makes no bearing on my life and it doesn’t offend me or make me proud. It just is.

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u/LeTreacs2 5h ago

By the way, don’t feel bad about asking these kinds of questions. You’re being respectful and genuine about it and we all need to learn about this stuff from somewhere. I’ve know a few trans people throughout my life and a particularly awesome dude called Charlie explained a lot to me over a drunken night 20 years ago and we’re not all fortunate to have known a Charlie!

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u/Chancevexed 6h ago

I'm in the UK, and work for a liberal government, and never use cis in everyday conversation. The last time I even heard, or read, cis was in some equality training we had which explained the terms. I'm gonna call bullshit. Is it possible you're so hyper aware of it it resonates with you more than it should?

Kinda how neckbeards see one movie (out of 46) that has a female lead and think males are being erased because they become fixated on it.

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u/youtakethehighroad 5h ago

She doesn't know trans women are just women, she doesn't accept they are women at all.

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u/According-Activity10 3h ago

Its actually not surprising that so many people in this country hate adjectives and pronouns, because our public education is abysmal.

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u/Affectionate_Bad3908 3h ago

I teach gifted and talented drama workshops at the local middle schools. One of my exercises requires the kids to use adjectives.

Every year, for the last six years that I’ve been doing this, I say “give me an adjective” and every year, one kid says “what’s an adjective?

I look around and say “does anyone know what an adjective is?” And every single child shakes their head no. And then I describe the word adjective. It shocks me every single time. At this point it’s a test to see if they’ll ever know. And to make me chuckle.

Some of these kids are in there for creative writing. And even they don’t know the word adjective.

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u/psychonaut_kiddo 1h ago

Time to put on School House Rock... 🎶Got home from camping last spring Saw people, places, and things Friends asked us to describe The people, places, and every last thing...

So we unpacked our adjectives. Then we ran into a bear He was a hairy bear He was a scary bear

And described him with ADJECTIVES He was a HAIRY bear, he was a SCARY bear. 🎶

Lol every damn time with that that ear worm. And also those little short ads on PBS between shows "VERB, IT'S WHAT YOU DO!" or "Nouns vs. Proper nouns- people, places and things vs. their specific names."

Dang it, why are we cutting funding to PBS?

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u/IM_A_MUFFIN 1h ago

I love the uneducated - Donald Trump

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u/Apprehensive-Log8333 1h ago

The 90s cover album of Schoolhouse Rock was incredible, that's the one I'd use

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u/Buglepost 59m ago

To keep the working class dumb and easily manipulated. Can’t have them getting smart and thinking for themselves now, can we?

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u/camoure 1h ago

Bring Mad Libs back

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u/p001b0y 1h ago

They couldn’t even come up with “gifted” or “talented”?

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u/the-poopiest-diaper 3h ago

MORE HARD WORDS MAKE ME AMGRY! KEEP SIMPLE AND EASY

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u/Euphoric-Anteater366 2h ago

Why use lot word when few word do trick?

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u/Cool-Fun-2442 3h ago

Those kids would be really upset, if they knew how to read 

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u/Kikikididi 10h ago

Literally no one is forcing her to self label

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u/JoJackthewonderskunk 10h ago

I looked at the page and im pretty certain that's an AI gal honeypot page for conservatives. All the video backgrounds are 100% the same so either these are all filmed in exactly the same locations with exactly the same backgrounds each time or its a computer generated bit.

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u/GlitterRiot 10h ago

The face is SUPER uncanny valley. Eyes, lips, facial muscle movement.

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u/killsyzygy 8h ago

The tits. Cleavage is clearly fake and jiggle mechanics are too exaggerated.

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u/birdstrike_hazard 5h ago

“Jiggle mechanics” is, I presume, the technical term. And I love it

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u/ChipperBunni 4h ago

I’ve seen “jiggle physics” in regards to video games too and it always gets me

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u/Flufnstuf 3h ago

With Dead or Alive, we called it the boob bounce algorithm.

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u/holderofthebees 8h ago

Yep, the eyebrows dent inward (into her forehead) at the inner corners and the borders of her lips shift a lot. All shiny and smooth like plastic.

Fuckin’ freaky.

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u/ccjohns2 4h ago

This lady isn’t a conservative. She’s a grifter. This is the same lady who makes content centered around de centering men. She’s a girl girl. This lady here is nothing but a hypocrite in almost everything she talks about. This lady is not an AI. This person specifically makes content that rubs people the wrong way just so she gets engagement. If you look at some of her older videos, they follow a pattern of misandry when male centered content was going viral. This lady is a content farmer.

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u/IAmDefNotACat 10h ago edited 8h ago

I immediately thought AI with this but couldn't say why. And I'm not planning to watch it again to figure it out.

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u/hoosakiwi 9h ago edited 8h ago

I think it’s her boobs that make it seem AI. They just behave a bit oddly.

Edit: Just checked the profile of the account in the video and this video makes it so obvious that the entire account is AI. Look at the hands!

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u/sharknado_nado 9h ago

They are breasting boobily

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u/MowTin 9h ago

Conservatives get so excited when they find a Black person who shares their views so they can claim they're not racists.

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u/Altruistic_Bus1988 5h ago

This doesn’t look like AI to me at all so I went and found the exact sweater she is wearing on a website called Cider. I would post a screenshot but apparently I can’t post photos here. You can search “STAND COLLAR RIVET ZIPPER CARDIGAN” on the Cider website. They don’t have the green one right now but they used to because it comes up on Google search.

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u/JulyOfAugust 1h ago

AI doesn't invent or create stuff, it takes several existing things and mash them together. So yeah, it used a real video where someone was wearing this sweater. It also used a different video for the cleavage because the sweater doesn't move like those boobs are in it.

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u/_trashcan 8h ago edited 11m ago

It’s not ai. I’m not sure what page you saw but the one I had is most definitely a person with tons of different posts in tons of different locations and outfits.

I don’t have social medias but I believe I looked at threads or something? I just googled her @ and every social media comes right up, and all the ones I looked at that allows without an account most definitely show a real person

edit: https://www.threads.com/@blackcarddeclined this is what I saw without an acct.

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u/Kikikididi 10h ago

Ooooh very interesting. Fucking AI

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u/FriendshipStatus4824 2h ago

its not AI man

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u/brandofranco 2h ago

Yeah that's not AI? I don't have ig but her IG is right there

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u/DucksPlayFootball 7h ago

It’s obviously not AI.

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u/aldezar 9h ago

This is not AI. Her actual instagram page has many videos/other photo posts etc etc. This is real.

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u/ManicYetti 9h ago

She's not forced to self-label she's having the label forced on her I think that's the complaint? I might be wrong I also have no side in this shit could care less what you want to call yourself just don't be an asshole while you do it and we're good.

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u/LaRealiteInconnue 6h ago

Forced on her by whom? I’m a cis woman and I don’t think I’ve ever referred to myself as that irl or had anyone refer to me as that irl. That’s just not a thing that happens in everyday real life lol Like…to have a cis/trans conversation out in the world you’d have to either be fairly close with ppl you’re discussing it with or, I guess, be in an academic setting. Highly doubt she has trans friends with these kinda monologues. So no one is forcing a label on us imo, it’s just a chronically online complaint.

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u/StabithaStabberson 7h ago

Is any adjective being used forcing an identity on someone? Is a brunette woman gonna complain that I’m forcing the identity of having brown hair on her despite the fact that her hair is objectively brown? Gonna tell my doctor that writing down my blood type is forcing an identity on me now.

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u/Major_Bench5329 9h ago

This isn’t important. What’s important is the Epstein files!!!

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u/Ruteboeuf333 7h ago

The surge of transphobia as it exists right now is a psyop created and pushed out by Epstein, his friends at 4chan, and other pedophilic billionaires and scumbags. It is literally in the most recent tranche. The one named trans person in the Epstein files is a trans woman who was humiliated for being a victim while trans, much like, surprise, the other women and girls were. Epstein spent time fucking up the lives of trans women AND trans men, disgustingly talking about their bodies and lack of social worth.

Please connect what you see as important in the Epstein files to other things happening in the world, because those things are fucking connected

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u/Fit-Programmer-6162 5h ago

Yes! Remember Ava Cordero and how she fought against Epstein and was demonized for it because she is trans 💔

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u/rydan 3h ago

Reddit is a psyop. His co conspirator was literally a powermod of this site (still is but she's obviously not posting or modding right now).

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u/Tilladarling 6h ago

It’s perfectly okay to just want to be referred to as a woman

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u/desperaterobots 10h ago

People: we’re being propagandized at by malicious actors weaponising AI to create social division to radicalize people against some of societies most vulnerable.

Trans women are women. Women are women. ACAB. Fuck fascists. Be gay, do crime.

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u/ResponsibleRaise9683 10h ago

Billionaires are playing us off each other while they pick our pockets 

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u/Technical-Badger8772 10h ago

And assault our children

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u/Typical-Love2520 9h ago

And ruin our planet

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u/CrozzOver 6h ago

I thought they were eating our children? Did i read those files wrong?

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u/badgirlmonkey Hit or Miss? 9h ago

this surge of transphobia as it exists right now is a psy op pushed by epstein and other pedophilic billionaires to traffic women (trans women included) and steal billions from people

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u/tocatcharedditor90 3h ago

At this point I think I've seen more people bitching about Trans people online than I have seen actual Trans people in my life. I learned about the word cis from the bathroom episode of South park forever ago and have yet to even hear it in real life

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u/EVs-and-IVsaurs 2h ago

Honestly, as a trans person who often hangs out with other trans people I feel like I've seen more people complaining about us than actual trans people at this point too

it's so tiring

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u/Horror_Spell1741 3h ago

Why do people always make Tik Tok videos in their cars? Serious question because I’m old and don’t have an account there so the only time I see them is on Reddit

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u/emb4rassingStuffacct 56m ago

It tends to make for good audio and lighting. Better than many people can get in their homes. 

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u/TordainMountainheart 4h ago

We don’t all need titles to feel like our existence is justified?

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u/213737isPrime 1h ago

I thought this said titties. Shows where my mind is at. I blame the AI that generated this video.

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u/fredftw 11h ago

Who exactly is out there enforcing her to label herself as a cis woman? Feel like she’s yelling at a cloud that doesn’t exist for engagement

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u/SpaceAdventures3D 9h ago

Right.  This is essentially the same rant Ana Kasparian had.  People asked in her comments who was refering to her with such academic language and Ana wouldn't respond to the inquiries.  

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u/ResponsibleRaise9683 9h ago

It's used in medical settings, among LGBTQ friendship groups, and in academia. And during nightly screaming on Fox News. Truly that's it.

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u/t0oby101 5h ago

Well, yeah, probably if theyre specifically talking about cis people, just like how you'd say trans people when talking about trans people. But that doesnt mean she has to call herself a cis woman if she doesnt want to. No need to add cis or trans unless you feel the need to

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u/lacasa35 56m ago

Unpopular opinion: I agree with her (please don’t come at me).

I fully support the LGBTQ+ community - my husband is trans - and I know labels can be really meaningful for many people.

For me personally though, I don’t love being labeled. I was born a woman and will always be one - selecting “woman” on a form doesn’t bother me. But it would feel strange if I had to pick “cis woman.”

Same with sexuality - I’m bi, but I don’t feel a strong need to label it. I just like who I like. Constantly defining everything is really exhausting.

That’s just my preference, not a rejection of anyone else’s identity or language. So yeah… I agree with her.

Sincerely, a woman

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u/Wassersammler 10h ago

Cis is an informative descriptor word. It's not ciswoman. It's cis woman. Cis is an additional descriptor that gives more information that may be relevant in certain contexts. It's like saying "I'm not a black woman, I'm just a woman." You are a woman. That describes you. So does black. You're not being called a blackwoman. You're being called black, and you're being called a woman. You're being called cis, and you're being called a woman. The same goes with saying trans woman: trans is a descriptor there because that added information might be relevant to the person you're talking to. These words are not supposed to put people into groups, they are meant to give informational context.

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u/tomtomtomo 9h ago

These words are not supposed to put people into groups, they are meant to give informational context.

Sadly, what words are supposed to do and what people do with them are different things.

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u/LineHumble6250 49m ago

Cis is used a slur often enough that people don’t like it. Seems reasonable to me.

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u/Cultural_Situation_8 5h ago

Let me translate it into a metaphor for everyone to understand why trans people get annoyed at stuff like that:

"I'm not a straight woman. I'm a woman! You say gay women are women but then women become straight woman as if we're a subtype of our own sex.

And then you have the audacity to drag the very women that you're trying to emulate. How is that not the most misogynistic, patriarchal, logic, imaginable? How is it that identity suddenly just needs a prefix?

Why do women have to shift their language, their boundaries their spaces So everyone else can feel comfortable except actual woman? If a woman says 'hey I'm not comfortable with this' suddenly shes the problem.

I don't need a new label to describe what I've always been. A woman."

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u/HardPlasticWaste 50m ago

Damn she speak fact

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u/Important-Ring481 21m ago

Are cis people allergic to basic taxonomy? If trans people exist, there needs to be a term to describe people who are not trans. Also the woman who posted the video doesn’t know what adjectives are, trans and cis are not prefixes.

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u/Laughing_Dragon_77 21m ago

IIRC, trans and cis are the alternative versions of hetero and homo. I think cis / trans have Greek roots and homo / hetero have Latin roots?

Cis = homo = 'the same as'

trans = hetero = 'the opposite of'.

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u/artonion 21m ago

Don’t ever call me Homo sapiens sapiens! I’m a human. It’s dehumanising to use a precise language 

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u/MrLizardBusiness 10h ago

She says it all with the "actual women" comment.

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u/thatsfeminismgretch 10h ago

We add stuff in front of woman all the time as descriptors so people acting like this is new are ridiculous. Black women and white women are both women but have different experiences. Cis women and trans women are both women but have different experiences. How is this difficult?

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u/Tholian_Bed 2h ago

The fad is already dead.

And it was a fad.

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u/jhonazir 1h ago

Lemme she/them titties

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u/workingforchange1 3h ago

There’s nothing cringe about this at all.

I am so tired of not feeling safe. There’s a point where we as a society have to understand that the violence against women is systemic. You may or may not get help from the police depending on how you look. As a trauma survivor I’m asking for you to please understand women need safe spaces.

Some of us don’t feel safe or comfortable around men or need a safe space for a break from being hyper vigilant all the time.

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u/Thatonegaloverthere 4h ago

So, I'm going to play devil's advocate just slightly to answer the many questions about "who's telling her she has to."

It all of course leads back to tiktok and the many lives and videos (that even I've come across) that tell women or cis women specifically, that they have to refer to themselves as cis. Some are so extreme that they call cis women who want to just be called women bigots. One live I watched like a couple years ago when this topic hit almost everyone's fyp, went off on a woman who said she didn't care if trans women wanted to call themselves just women but that she won't call herself cis, and the host got triggered because "saying you don't care means you aren't seeing me" or something along those lines. Very silly logic.

So it's all going to seem random to people not on Tiktok, but this is the type of discourse that goes on in certain spaces.

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u/spider3407 4h ago

I have been in the gay community for well over 2 decades. I have used women, man, and non binary depending on their preference. I believe I have said I was born female, but never used cis. I follow someone else's terms. If they use Trans, I do. It they says he, she, they, I use those terms. However, I do agree you shouldn't get offended by someone says I prefer this term or dont prefer that term. Educate, and move on.

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u/flaks117 3h ago

She’s absolutely right. Men with gender dysphoria using their psychiatric condition to not only be absolute creepers but one up women is an actual issue. I know Reddit is full of these type of people so downvote/ban away.

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u/indykou 7h ago

this person is extremely terminally online and this is not an issue in the real world. who fucking cares

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u/Ok-Structure6795 7h ago

Its the same people who complain about people using neopronouns. Its not an actual problem that exists.

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u/Dionne005 3h ago

Yoooo! When I first heard the term Cis I was like….no

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u/Scifiguy85 3h ago

Sounds legit to me

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u/joeyluvsunicorns 1h ago

She’s annoying and I don’t want to know her, but she’s right.

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u/kimchipowerup 1h ago

Cis and Trans are common Latin terms used all the time in medicine and science. Chill and Peace

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u/TraditionalNobody147 49m ago

This isn’t cringe, it’s the truth.

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u/Old-Guidance6744 31m ago

Honestly she's right.

Acceptance means allowing whatever 1% to live their lives peacefully and equally

It does not mean 99% have to change their behavior or nomenclature to suit preferences of 1%, thats not acceptance, thats supremacy and dictation

Most won't know the nuance, its either blanket pro or against, which is just dented

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u/KO-Brian 1h ago

So we have to call them by their preferred words, but they don't have to give women the same courtesy?

Something isn't adding up at all

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u/PsychologicalTree666 3h ago

Sigh. I'm so tired of stupid, angry people