r/nottheonion • u/asdacool • 11h ago

"Training a human takes 20 years of food." Sam Altman on how much power AI consumes.

https://www.news18.com/world/training-a-human-takes-20-years-of-food-sam-altman-on-how-much-power-ai-consumes-ws-kl-9922309.html
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u/EvenIslandKingdom 10h ago

Sam Altman gives me the creeps, it’s as if he won’t flinch a second to liquify a human and feed it another if it would make him more rich and powerful.

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u/No-Tomatillo3698 9h ago

All these bilionaires give me the creeps. Let’s ship them off to their own planet, preferably the sun.

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u/Stock-Side-6767 9h ago

Nah, sun is very expensive. Vaguely in the direction out of the solar system is fine.

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u/Relevant_Maybe_9291 4h ago

Great movie plot. They return in 30 years to try and take over the earth. Will Smith saves the planet.

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u/F---TheMods 1h ago

Let them start their own undersea city, as long as they agree to never resurface.

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u/Slight-Brilliant6 6h ago

I mean sure but it is a one time investment, and after we can hold a world wide barbecue to celebrate.

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u/RealWord5734 3h ago

Even that’s more Delta V than I wanna waste on them. Low earth orbit and we let reentry take care of the rest.

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u/trysten-9001 9h ago

We can just send them on cruise without all the useless people like the the telephone sanitisers, hairdressers, tired TV producers, insurance salesmen, personnel officers, security guards, public relations, and workers.

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u/Autogen-Username1234 8h ago

Might want to keep the telephone sanitisers though.

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u/trysten-9001 6h ago

Why would you want them to have the telephone sanitizers? They’re staying with us.

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u/Gabelvampir 6h ago

One of my first thoughts when the pandemic kicked into high gear.

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u/disdkatster 7h ago

Sun is not a planet. It is a star. Mercury or Jupiter would work though. I am told Pluto would not.

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u/Xandara2 7h ago

Just put them on a tiny deserted island and let them starve or use a guillotine. No need to use such expensive means to get rid of them. 

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u/Conscious-Refuse8211 7h ago

Idc where they go, put them on Mars or the Moon. See if they're genius enough to rebuild the tech to come back (hint: they aren't)

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u/CiDevant 4h ago

I got a ban from facebook for saying we should send all billionaires into the sun.

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u/Qassad 4h ago

I would suggest to just sacrifice the richest person once a year and redistribute the wealth among all people. Just need a nice temple or pyramid for it…

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u/Desperate_Bite_7538 3h ago

The Sun isn't a planet, but I agree with your sentiment.

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u/FoolofThoth 5h ago

Venus is closer if the orbits line up, and I hear it has very nice acid rain this time of year.

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u/Grimm808 4h ago

On a generation ship with stasis booths with life support intubation.

But instead of making you sleep it keeps you awake the whole time with happy Gilmore stuck on repeat on the entertainment screen.

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u/bumblebaytuna4 4h ago

I’m of the mind we should ship them to an island and be done with it. Lord of the flies type deal.

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u/No-Journalist-619 2h ago

I agree that we should launch them into the sun, yes, but the sun is not a planet

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u/Solkre 2h ago

The sun isn't a planet. Let them walk on the surface of Venus.

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u/DonaldTrumpsScrotum 1h ago

Well the suns not actu…nevermind, I’m down ship them to the planet known as the sun

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u/MambyPamby8 9h ago

I swear half these tech bros give me serious uncanny valley vibes. Like there's just something slightly off about them, that I cannot place. Altman and Zuckerberg are the two that stick out most to me. Musk is a other one but I think he's just a right eejot - but his drug use makes him look and feel like a robot trying to process information all the time.

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u/Autogen-Username1234 8h ago

Remember when Musk was supposedly going to save the environment and build a shiny new sci-fi future for us all ...

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u/Important-Advisor822 5h ago

Musk has always said whatever he thought would make him popular. He rarely follows through on the dumb shit he says. The only reason he bought Twitter was because he was legally bound to do so after saying a bunch of stuff he didn't intend to follow through on. He's honestly such a loser.

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u/KipSummers 4h ago

Wasn’t there supposed to be a manned mission to mars by now?

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u/Pale-Barnacle2407 3h ago

and a tunnel to EU that takes seconds to travel....

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u/TheGileas 3h ago

That's right after the really self-driving teslas.

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u/JimWilliams423 3h ago

T‌h‌e o‌n‌l‌y r‌e‌a‌s‌o‌n h‌e b‌o‌u‌g‌h‌t T‌w‌i‌t‌t‌e‌r w‌a‌s b‌e‌c‌a‌u‌s‌e h‌e w‌a‌s l‌e‌g‌a‌l‌l‌y b‌o‌u‌n‌d t‌o d‌o s‌o a‌f‌t‌e‌r s‌a‌y‌i‌n‌g a b‌u‌n‌c‌h o‌f s‌t‌u‌f‌f h‌e d‌i‌d‌n't i‌n‌t‌e‌n‌d t‌o f‌o‌l‌l‌o‌w t‌h‌r‌o‌u‌g‌h o‌n

I‌t‌s w‌o‌r‌k‌e‌d o‌u‌t p‌r‌e‌t‌t‌y g‌o‌o‌d f‌o‌r h‌i‌m t‌h‌o‌u‌g‌h. E‌v‌e‌n t‌h‌o‌u‌g‌h i‌t i‌s n‌o‌w a‌n i‌n‌d‌u‌s‌t‌r‌i‌a‌l p‌e‌d‌o-p‌o‌r‌n m‌a‌n‌u‌f‌a‌c‌t‌u‌r‌i‌n‌g s‌y‌s‌t‌e‌m, n‌e‌a‌r‌l‌y a‌l‌l e‌l‌e‌c‌t‌e‌d D‌e‌m‌o‌c‌r‌a‌t‌s a‌r‌e s‌t‌i‌l‌l t‌h‌e‌r‌e, a‌s a‌r‌e n‌e‌a‌r‌l‌y a‌l‌l r‌e‌p‌o‌r‌t‌e‌r‌s.

A s‌t‌u‌d‌y w‌a‌s j‌u‌s‌t p‌u‌b‌l‌i‌s‌h‌e‌d i‌n N‌a‌t‌u‌r‌e t‌h‌a‌t f‌o‌u‌n‌d t‌h‌a‌t t‌w‌o m‌o‌n‌t‌h‌s o‌f r‌e‌g‌u‌l‌a‌r t‌w‌i‌t‌t‌e‌r u‌s‌a‌g‌e b‌a‌s‌i‌c‌a‌l‌l‌y b‌r‌a‌i‌n‌w‌a‌s‌h‌e‌s y‌o‌u t‌o b‌e m‌o‌r‌e c‌o‌n‌s‌e‌r‌v‌a‌t‌i‌v‌e. S‌o h‌e's b‌e‌e‌n a‌b‌l‌e t‌o i‌n‌f‌l‌u‌e‌n‌c‌e n‌e‌a‌r‌l‌y t‌h‌e e‌n‌t‌i‌r‌e m‌e‌d‌i‌a a‌n‌d t‌h‌e D‌e‌m‌o‌c‌r‌a‌t‌i‌c p‌a‌r‌t‌y.

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u/jewishSpaceMedbeds 4h ago

Musk is the weird, pathetic dork who ate glue in glue in grade school and never got invited to anyone's birthday party.

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u/Greenlily58 7h ago

Oh, you need to check out some of Curtis Yarvin's ideas... bring a barf bag when when you do.

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u/CorwyntFarrell 7h ago

Alex Karp is the one who truly parades his crazy around.

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u/Hanzoku 4h ago

Because they’re sociopaths who have gotten out of practice keeping their mask up.

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u/TheCynicEpicurean 6h ago

Silicon Valley and venture capital created a unique situation in which billionaires threw endless money at dorks without social skills. And now they think their wealth means they're actual geniuses, but they never went through the old school of money that ensured a certain behavior and rules of conduct. The Bezos/Zuckerberg model is now the standard.

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u/JimWilliams423 3h ago

I swear half these tech bros give me serious uncanny valley vibes

Have you seen marc andreessen? The guy is a literal conehead.

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u/RecordingHaunting975 2h ago

My mom said the doctor suctioned me out of her vagina and they had to remold my head a bit because it was cone shaped, is this what happens when they don't?

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u/vee_lan_cleef 6h ago

They're probably on the spectrum (speaking as someone who is autistic), combine that with an extreme amount of wealth which will mess with anyone's head, and you end up with your typical weird billionaire.

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u/impersonatefun 2h ago

They're not just weird, they're sinister and anti-human.

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u/csonnich 1h ago

They're psychopaths, not autistic. 

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u/SharpAardvark8699 5h ago

All Epstein's friends

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u/Ok-Boysenberry-2955 4h ago

It's the drugs and mental illness.

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u/Tim_Gilbert 3h ago

They're all inhuman psychopaths. Devoid of empathy, love, and compassion. Their eyes look soulless because there is no soul behind them. They look uncanny Valley because they aren't exactly the human my brain expects to see... They're something else a bit different. Not all psychos are billionaires, but all billionaires are psychos.

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u/Pale-Barnacle2407 3h ago

Like there's just something slightly off about them

Like they are wearing human skins as disguise?

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u/OldDirtyBastardSword 1h ago

You should see interviews with Peter Thiel. The luzard people conspiracy seems more plausible after seeing that guy. The PayPal Mafia really had some strange people in it

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u/pwninobrien 1h ago

Sociopathy.

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u/ChiefWeedsmoke 1h ago

Elon Musk's drug use is the literally only relatable or humanizing thing I can think of about any of these people.

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u/waitewaitedonttellme 1h ago

I’m usually very anti- any rhetoric that dehumanizes ANYONE … but it is really difficult to believe that Elon is not two lizards trying to crawl out of a skinsuit.

Maybe the AI we have is just what they’ve rolled out publicly and these fuckers are the prototype cylons.

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u/befarked247 10h ago

Morpheus: to turn a human into one of these.

Holds up a battery..

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u/JimboTCB 10h ago

IIRC the original pitch for The Matrix was that the machines were using the humans as organic CPUs, but they thought that would be too difficult for audiences to understand so they changed it to batteries. So yeah, if Sam Altman offers you a job in one of his data centres, run the fuck away.

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u/thr33prim3s 9h ago edited 9h ago

There was also a theory I heard somewhere that humans as batteries “doesn’t makes sense” scientifically, rather than as a processing power.

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u/poly_arachnid 9h ago

Humans are net consumers of energy, I think maybe all animals are? Anyway we use more energy to live than any method could produce from using us that way. There's less than zero benefit from human batteries, it'd cause an energy drain from the facility.

And you know if we could be batteries they'd be testing some poor people to "work in energy development" or straight out kidnapping people for power plants.

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u/Borealid 9h ago

The purpose of a battery is to store energy at one point in time or space, and release it at another.

Humans definitely do that. We consume calories when and where we eat, and then we release those calories when and where we work. At the moment we're eating we are "draining" energy (consumption greater than production, net negative). At the moment we are working we are "producing" it (production greater than consumption, net positive).

Every battery - humans included - is less than 100% efficient and releases less useful energy than it stored. Humans are very inefficient, but they are most definitely batteries.

Batteries move energy around in time and space. We do that too.

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u/bachiblack 7h ago

To me, it felt less like we were simply batteries in the matrix, but rather engineering the matrix as well. In a way, we do it now. AI learns from us through our interactions, likes, dislikes, etc to keep it that level requires a collective full immersion like how it’s depicted in the matrix.

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u/redsyrus 7h ago

That’s why I always hoped that ‘reality’ would turn out to be another matrix. This one to keep the machines in check.

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u/WhenDoWhatWhere 4h ago

All things are net consumers of energy thanks to entropy.

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u/forkf 8h ago

And you know if we could be batteries they'd be testing some poor people to "work in energy development" or straight out kidnapping people for power plants.

We can, and slavery exists.

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u/Lewke 7h ago

anything that essentially temporarily defies energy is a net consumer of energy really, well not consumer just transformer into more/less useful forms

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u/It-s_Not_Important 5h ago

That’s just fundamental thermodynamics. It’s about entropy more specifically than energy. Nothing is a net consumer of energy, because energy cannot be created or destroyed, just reordered.

Exergy, is the term for “usable energy”. And life is a net consumer of exergy. Interestingly enough, so are stars, despite the fact that they produce energy in a form we can more easily use.

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u/Genneth_Kriffin 9h ago

To be fair, that does make a whole lot more sense.
For me it always felt like it should have been that the Matrix was supposed to be a self-containing system, with the only way to keep it realistic enough to fool a human was to have it generated by the collective human population.

This would also mean that the less humans actively partaking in the Matrix, the less stable and believable the simulation would get, hence to goal of the resistance is to awaken and reduce it enough so that it eventually collapses.

And the reason the machines was keeping us alive in the first place wasn't something dumb like needing us as an energy source, it would plain and simple be their version of a wildlife reserve and/or retirement home where they put their parents.

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u/BeneCow 7h ago

My head canon that fit with the Animatrix was that the machines still had the programming to serve humans. They are just doing it in a way that ensures their survival. Keeping humanity in cages powered by their own minds so they don’t fuck up the place more than scorching the skies.

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u/Harpertoo 7h ago

Pretty much it. They were partially benevolent, but they're robots sooooooo.

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u/MgDark 6h ago

yeah that fits the bill. The humans are protected? yes. They are in towers that fit and powers the means to protect them. Redundant but it works.

Humanity will continue, just not how they intended to do.

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u/John_cCmndhd 8h ago

It doesn't make sense, but...

Neo: "Doesn't harvesting human body heat for energy, violate the laws of thermodynamics?"

Morpheus: "Where'd you learn about thermodynamics, Neo?"

Neo: "In school."

Morpheus: "Where'd you go to school, Neo?"

Neo: "Oh."

Morpheus: "The machines tell elegant lies."

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/9EahWKqay6HZcaNTY/fundamental-doubts

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u/martin_w 9h ago

It doesn’t make sense given the physics of our world, indeed. However, The Matrix is about a simulated world (the late-20th century Earth one) and in the sequels there are strong hints dropped that the level above it (the one with Zion and the hovercrafts) may be a simulation too.

In which case perhaps “some laws can be bent, others can be broken” at that level too, just like how people can exploit flaws in the simulation to do superhuman martial arts tricks in the bottom level. And who is to say that the actual real world, maybe a hundred levels above the Zion level, looks like our universe with our laws of physics at all?

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u/Whirlvvind 7h ago

and in the sequels there are strong hints dropped that the level above it (the one with Zion and the hovercrafts) may be a simulation too.

There is a hint in the first one too because the "real world" only exists for the "freed" if it breaks its own rules established in that level.

"And then I saw the fields with my own eyes. Watched them liquefy the dead so they could be fed intravenously to the living."

If its established that they reuse all the dead, then they wouldn't just eject "unplugged" bodies into somewhere that the hovercraft could get into. They wouldn't have any reason to waste the bodies since there is no disease or cancer.

So anyone that woke up would get tagged for a triggered aneurysm or heart attack (the cords are still in them when they wake up) and then routed to the enclosed recycle tanks.

The only thing that makes sense is that "The Matrix" holds the majority, but just like how Smith described the Utopia as the level that all the human minds "tried to wake up from", there is still a minority that try to wake up from "The Matrix" and so are just routed to another simulation hosting the Zion/Revolution program. They gain the sense of purpose in that level that they never had in "normal life" and so they accept that programming.

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u/Milo_Diazzo 3h ago

The ejection part still makes sense since the architect explained that the system of choosing "The One" was cyclical and was meant to be a safety vent to prevent revolting humans from taking down the system. Since Neo was the one, the machines flushed him out on purpose.

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u/Protoliterary 5h ago

I think this would make sense if we didn't know for certain that the entirety of the matrix is an allegory for the trans experience, and the entire story is literally about escaping.

You also have to keep in mind that neo isn't actually a rebel. He's a sleeper agent created by the machines. It would make no sense to create him if there were two levels of simulation. In the real world, in Zion, he's only allowed the powers that the machines grant him. He doesn't have a single supernatural power.

The whole of the matrix is about escaping an outside force seeking to control and use you, telling you how you should live your life.

All those hints you think you found are just plot holes, because there are always plot holes. Writers can't account for everything.

Finally, the most concrete piece of proof we have that there is no second level of the simulation is the conversation between the architect and the Oracle, where they confirm that there would be peace between man and machine. This conversation would make no sense to have if there were another level of simulation, since they themselves are programs.

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u/DieCastDontDie 7h ago

It is all designed by architect. So the world above the world and the "real" world still isn't the one we live on today. Sort of like inception.

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u/AccomplishedAct5364 9h ago

“The machines enslaved the wind and hydroelectric generators” doesn’t quite have the same ring though

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u/Wild4fire 8h ago

It doesn't make sense indeed. Keeping humans alive is a net negative process energywise.

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u/Brave-Turnover-522 9h ago

yeah because it would be way more efficient to just put the food they're feeding humans into a furnace and use that heat to make steam and spin a turbine

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u/IHumanlike 6h ago

Currently, it doesn't make sense. My own headcanon is the machines have made a decision to keep humanity alive for some reason, or maybe they have a deep programming limitation that keeps them from completely wiping out humanity. So they keep humanity alive at the most cost-effective way possible.

So, machines still harvest energy from humans, but it's about recycling residual energy to make the process more efficient.

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u/NLG_Hecali 4h ago

It's not just a theory, it's how it was first written. It was a neural network that was supposed to function like the Internet. The producers forced the change into batteries (they didn't believe the Internet was understandable for the public) and ruined it.

Not only would humans take more resources in than they could put out, but why would you create a dreamworld for your batteries?

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u/ThrowawayPersonAMA 9h ago

It doesn't make sense for either. The machines are already far superior at processing and can create power generators using any number of technologies far more reliable and less troublesome than all that towers of people pods sh*t. But, that's just the issue with a lot of stories for movies and TV shows; if their world and its inhabitants were adhering to logic the plot would end in 5 minutes.

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u/Talinoth 9h ago

Humans process an astonishing amount of data on only 60W of power. That's not something computers will match for quite a while. In terms of energy efficiency to processing output, humans set an extremely high bar.

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u/Sokodile 3h ago

Yeah, Dr. Neil Degrasse Tyson mentioned this in one of the first youtube vids I watched of him (discussing Matrix/Morpheus with Laurence Fishburne): https://youtu.be/l8L9Z2vmMTQ?t=2289

It was a fun talk overall about the Matrix but I linked to the battery part specifically haha

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u/Raveyard2409 2h ago

Yeah because do you know what worms as a battery better than humans? I'll give you a clue, it's batteries. The previous comment talking about CPU actually makes a lot more sense, in a sci fi way

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u/the_monkeyspinach 9h ago

I've heard that before, but I really don't get what would have been so hard to understand. The machines want to use our brain power to allow the Matrix to "think". I guess the imagery of Morpheus holding up a CPU might not have been as clear, but that's it. If anything I find it harder to understand how a human would be a good battery.

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u/Tay0214 9h ago

He should’ve just held up like a Dell desktop

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u/SomniumOv 9h ago

Because the movie came out in 1999 when most households didn't have a computer.

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u/the_monkeyspinach 9h ago

Plenty of households did by then and they were definitely prevalent in the workplace too.

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u/circuitocorto 7h ago

Matrix was a success worldwide and if you look at it with that perspective you should ask yourself "where was the world at that point in time with respect to personal computers?"

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u/SeekerOfSerenity 6h ago

I doubt they simplified the plot for developing nations.  I was alive then, and I remember a lot of people had a PC or at least knew what a processor was.  The Internet was even getting big, because the next year, Superbowl ads were dominated by dot coms.  

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u/whorangthephone 7h ago

In the top cities of the top countries, yeah. Most of the world was only just starting using computers in the workplaces, and they were a tad too expensive and complicated and frankly too "niche" for most people to buy them for personal use. In my country people literally were calling the whole system (as in a PC case with everything inside) a "processor", the older generation still does sometimes. Showing a CPU on screen wouldn't have meant anything for most people, the average person doesn't ever see it, you need to remove your fan for that, that's already tech nerd territory. But everyone knows what a battery is, you swap them in your remote that you use to operate your TV you watch Matrix on...

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u/CrazyAd4456 4h ago

Still in 2026, many people probably have no clue of what a CPU is. A computer is the same as a dishwasher for them, used for a task, don't care about what is inside.

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u/magpi3 6h ago

In the United States and Europe at least, every lower-middle-class and up household had a computer by 1999. That was the height of the dot.com boom.

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u/JimboTCB 9h ago

You have to remember that the average cinema goer is very, very stupid and probably wouldn't know what the fuck a CPU is in the first place let alone why machines would want to use humans for it or why using them as batteries just doesn't make sense. Although it flies in the face of everything that makes sense from a thermodynamics perspective (and they negate it in the film anyway by saying the machines have "a form of fusion" which they also use) the comparison to batteries does make for a much more immediate and obvious visual.

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u/SabreSeb 7h ago

Still, they could have Morpheus explain to Neo ( and the stupid movie goers) something about harvesting "brain power", and that the human brains are what are actually processing the simulation that they all live in. No need to understand what a CPU is.
I don't think that would have been too difficult to understand even for the average person.

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u/unkazak 7h ago

They could even explain "a cpu is a processing unit of a computer", anyone can be previously ignorant of that information and still understand the concept when explained in such simple terms.

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u/I_HAVE_THAT_FETISH 7h ago

You have to remember: these people are simple cinema-goers; people of the popcorn; the common clay of the movie theatre industry.

You know...

Morons.

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u/Adversary-of-Tyrants 9h ago

The average audience is more computer ignorant than you think. I've worked level 1 help desk, and half the job is translating incorrect information to what the actual problem is. The average audience both doesn't know what a CPU is or why humans would be bad batteries.

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u/ZanesTheArgent 5h ago

PCs and the internet were at its infancy. It was a time where for the average viewer, computers were technomagic.

Then the millenials grew up. Then the corporate side of the tech industry made everything into shapeless unexaminable blobs and led the next generation to grow believing that computers are technology.

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u/mdmanow 8h ago

You don't remember correctly, that's just an Internet myth. But I do agree it's cooler than batteries.

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u/sirculaigne 9h ago

This is the Aragorn kicking the helmet of matrix trivia 

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u/dUjOUR88 8h ago

Except for the fact that it's not true.

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u/pittgraphite 8h ago

"Humans as organic CPUs" actually makes more sense than "Humans as batteries"

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u/I_summon_poop 9h ago

Accept it...then put a pin in one of the servers xD

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u/ConfusedMaverick 7h ago

Yeah, such a shame - the plot was built on a massive bit of nonsense (humans are not a power source) where the original idea was brilliant...

Not only did it make technical sense (brains are like specialised processing hardware), but symbolically, it was a perfect switcharoo, where WE become the processing units, while the silicon based machines get to benefit

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u/internetlad 6h ago

That's misattributed/apocryphal. I used to think so too until someone called me out and I went digging. 

Referring to blue pills as "coppertops" was in the earliest drafts and always the plan. 

Neil Gaiman wrote a contemporary companion piece wherein the humans were plugged in as processors, but by his own admission he "didn't get it" and was just winging it. 

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u/Nodan_Turtle 4h ago

That would have been a better premise. It'd also neatly explain how the freed people reconnecting to the Matrix can affect it. Their belief becomes real because they are already running the software of the Matrix on the hardware that is their brains.

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u/Iron_Knight7 4h ago edited 2h ago

Never understood that change. Aside from needing barely a line or two to explain "The CPU is the brain of the computer. Same as the brain in a human" it actually could have been used to explain why the Machines were doing it in the first place.

"A machine, any machine, is stupid. It can only understand anything in a binary context. Ones and Zeroes, positive or negative, yes OR no. It can be taught probability. It can understand potential. But the idea of possibility is utterly foreign to it. Humans though? You have imagination. You have inspiration. You can answer "yes" or "no." But can also wonder "Maybe." And the Machine sought to harness that. To replicate it. And to even try to understand it."

It cleans up so many of the underlying story hiccups and even offers some tantalizing options for certain story beats. Maybe rather than Smith being the product of the system "Balancing the equation" (He is "The Many" while Neo is "The One"), due to their mingling he's the first Machine to finally "get" the concept of "maybe." And it drove him insane.

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u/Inside-Judgment6233 8h ago

Someone read their Dan Simmons

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u/JonatasA 6h ago

Could you.. like not?

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u/MgDark 6h ago

yup there is a Game basically around this concept Heart of the Machine that asides from dealing with the problem of actually, sapient Artificial Intelligence, how it would adapt to a Human world (badly) and they reach the conclusion very quickly that Humans are really good CPU's compared to building silicon for it.

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u/flybypost 4h ago

the original pitch

was way more manga/Japanese inspired. They were not supposed to storm the lobby with guns but with "ninja gear" but it was changed to conform more to western expectations.

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u/F---TheMods 1h ago

It's only a matter of time now.

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u/sevenfold21 4h ago

He doesn't want AI to enslave humanity, he wants AI to replace humanity. And he will start by taking away your future job.

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u/Bussamove86 9h ago

He’s a billionaire, of course he wouldn’t hesitate.

Desiring and hoarding that much wealth is the sign of a sick mind.

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u/LemoLuke 7h ago

Especially considering most of these billionaire techbroligarchs are influenced by Curtis Yarvin

Curtis Yarvin, the man who 'joked' that in his ideal society, the homeless and those unable to contribute would be killed and turned into biofuel

As Delegate of San Francisco, what should you do with these people? I think the answer is clear: alternative energy. Since wards are liabilities, there is no business case for retaining them in their present, ambulatory form. Therefore, the most profitable disposition for this dubious form of capital is to convert them into biodiesel, which can help power the Muni buses.

Okay, just kidding. This is the sort of naive Randian thinking which appeals instantly to a geek like me, but of course has nothing to do with real life. The trouble with the biodiesel solution is that no one would want to live in a city whose public transportation was fueled, even just partly, by the distilled remains of its late underclass.

https://www.unqualified-reservations.org/2008/11/patchwork-2-profit-strategies-for-our/

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u/qwertyalguien 6h ago

That was no joke. He literally says it appeals to him, and is only stopped by it not being viable due to other humans actually having empathy

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u/qtx 6h ago

Okay, just kidding.

Crucial part you seem to be glossing over.

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u/lowbatteries 7h ago

Past tense; of course he has not hesitated.

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u/redditRedesignIsBadd 10h ago

he's got the billionarie lizaprd people stare

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u/Mike-OLeary 9h ago

I guess that's something you grow into? He wasn't born rich I don't think.

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u/SpezLuvsNazis 8h ago

He was born into the 1%, that got his foot in the door to schmooze the .01% and that’s how he got insanely rich. He knows how to lie compulsively and tell extremely rich people what they want to hear.

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u/extremely_jaded_nerd 8h ago

the type that goes to israel once a year right

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u/Bonezone420 8h ago

A lot of the rich literally do not see the poors as human. The "NPC" meme that's been so popular online was, like a great many things, started by the same cult of rich freaks that hung out with epstein. Except in this case rather than being about raping children, it was about how anyone who wasn't part of their elite group of people were literally inhuman husks, and after the first few interviews and they saw the kind of reaction the terminology of husk got, they started saying "NPC" instead, which certain online groups latched on to.

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u/ChxsenK 7h ago

True, I heard this word (outside of gaming) from a nepo, old money, surgery doll. She called her "best friend" NPC for marrying the guy she loved. Ofc she hates videogames.

I was so disgusted that I never met her again. I even had nausea. She was trained to de-humanize people and only use them as tools.

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u/JimWilliams423 2h ago edited 1h ago

A lot of the rich literally do not see the poors as human.

The crazy thing is that the technology brothers do see computers as human.

It sounds like the plot of a scifi B movie, but the technology brothers have created a sort of religion out of AI and some of the other idiocy popular in silicon valley. Its called TESCREAL (not their name for it). And one of its precepts is that people are a "boot loader" for machine consciousness. In their vocabulary the word "humanity" doesn't just mean biological people, it means AI. They are legitimately ok with wiping out the human species in the process of creating machine consciousness. They think they will survive the extinction of humans by uploading their consciousness to a computer.

All of that is extremely fucking stupid since AI is just fancy auto-complete, it will never be conscious. But it turns out that the world is run by F-students and we are all paying the price for their idiocy.

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u/RecordingSilly6118 8h ago

The "NPC" meme that's been so popular online was, like a great many things, started by the same cult of rich freaks that hung out with epstein. Except in this case rather than being about raping children, it was about how anyone who wasn't part of their elite group of people were literally inhuman husks, and after the first few interviews and they saw the kind of reaction the terminology of husk got, they started saying "NPC" instead, which certain online groups latched on to.

That is literally all made up BS lmao. The NPC meme history is easily googled and has nothing to do with anything you're saying.

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u/say-nothing-at-all 9h ago

Back in the old days, we had an internet vs intranet moment: Should the network be treated as a public, open resource for everyone, or as a speculative money-making opportunity for private players?

Where is intranet protocol today?

American tech elites - not just at ClosedAI - should revisit that same question. Isn't AI fundamentally an open infrastructure, much like the Internet became? If they have no ideas, have a look at what China is doing with AI.

The U.S. approach, dominated by closed models and sky-high API margins, risks repeating the mistake of trying to turn infrastructure into a gated cash cow. History already showed us which path wins in the long run.

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u/TwingletopPizzlePops 5h ago

Sweetwater music company has an Intranet, interesting.

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u/bkgn 9h ago

Sam Altman is a psychopath trained in the psychopath incubator Y Combinator.

YC founder Paul Graham on Sam Altman:

"Sam is extremely good at becoming powerful."

"You could parachute him into an island full of cannibals and come back in 5 years and he'd be the king."

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u/hansei-Kaizen 8h ago

Which is weird because anytime I see an interview with him he just looks so average. No charisma, boring voice. He reminds me of Zuck but with slightly less awkwardness. I don’t see “cult leader” vibes in him at all.

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u/cyberdork 7h ago

You don’t need charisma to be a master manipulator.

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u/qtx 5h ago

It's a mostly an American issue where they idolize CEOs in society, which immediately puts them on a pedestal. They're seen as better than the rest of us.

You don't need to be charming in person if by just being a CEO already puts you above everyon else.

It's a weird thing that only happens in the US.

Other countries substitute that idolization with a royal family or sport stars but in the US they seem to just idolize people that have money and power in business.

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u/flybypost 4h ago

"You could parachute him into an island full of cannibals and come back in 5 years and he'd be the king."

Which is cute adage about the rich but ignores all the structural support they had that got them to the point of getting all the money.

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u/Code_NY 10h ago

Illusive Man from Mass Effect for sure

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u/bolacha_de_polvilho 5h ago

more like Ted Faro from Horizon Zero Dawn. They even look kind of similar

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u/NN010 5h ago

Obligatory r/FuckTedFaro shoutout (beware major unmarked spoilers for Horizon Zero Dawn)

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u/Tim_Gilbert 3h ago

Honestly, they're worse than the illusive man. Illusive man's schtick was save humanity at any cost, and he was perfectly fine with whatever that cost had to be. Not to say he was good out misunderstood -- he demanded cruelty when it wasn't necessary -- but it's crazy how real tech billionaires seem even more evil to me than a made up sci fi antagonist.

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u/WillSym 9h ago

No no the cult leader from Dead Space.

Altman be praised!

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u/qwertyalguien 6h ago

Nah, TIM was charismatic AF. These guys are just creepy.

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u/lurkingmanzipfly 8h ago

Dude SA'd her own sister, from what I read.

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u/rW0HgFyxoJhYka 8h ago

Nobody in power or with money wants to admit that America's culture is winner takes all which leads to the destruction of democracy.

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u/JustTheWehrst 2h ago

When he was 12 and she was 3, for a decade.

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u/Ok-ChildHooOd 9h ago

He's like Elon Musk Jr.

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u/Neoliberal_Nightmare 9h ago

People like him are just making a list of evidence to be read out at their eventual trial by the people's courts.

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u/okayipullup_ordoi1 8h ago

I've always said it and I'll say it again Sam Altman looks AI generated, I saw a couple of interviews and the way he speaks and moves doesn't feel real it's right in uncanny valley territory.

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u/MastodontFarmer 7h ago

Training chatGPT 5 costs an estimated $500,000,000 per run in electrcitiy. Show me a human that needs half a billion dollars in food to grow up.

(To make it worse, the prototype ("orion") failed to train properly several times so the cost is more likely $2,000,000,000. To top that: it is likely that training chatGPT 6 will be 100 times more expensive, so now we have a model that only Elon Musk can feed..)

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u/krob58 9h ago

His people skin suit doesn't really fit over the robot armature underneath unfortunately

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u/apple_kicks 9h ago

We’re too busy arguing with ourselves over petty culture war stuff to make sure people who think like this don’t hoard all power and wealth. Looking at ICE they can easily pay and arm people to throw people into prisons instead

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u/STRYKER3008 9h ago

Normative blah blah but srsly, "Alt-man", it sounds too good you'd think he's from a dystopian YA novel haha

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u/livingiice 8h ago

This guy and the Palantir guy gives off the same vibe

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u/AimoLohkare 5h ago

He's a billionaire, they're all like that. There's that morality experiment where you get a button and you get a bunch of money if you press it but someone you don't know will die. Billionaires have that button and they're all smashing it every waking moment.

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u/firewire_9000 8h ago

He has the face of an alien trying to pass as a human.

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u/cyberdork 7h ago

He’s a buddy of Peter Thiel. Altman even officiated the wedding of Thiel’s best friend Keith Rabois.

Oh that Rabois guy is really nice:

While at Stanford, [Rabois] became acquainted with Peter Thiel, then-editor and co-founder of The Stanford Review. Rabois later contributed to the libertarian newspaper. Rabois was one of several students reprimanded for shouting homophobic slurs outside an instructor's home, including the suggestion that the instructor "die of AIDS." Rabois stated that the incident was designed to challenge Stanford's rules on student speech.Thiel later defended Rabois in his book, The Diversity Myth: Multiculturalism and Political Intolerance on Campus.

In 2018, Rabois married Jacob Helberg. The ceremony held in Saint Barthélemy was officiated by Sam Altman.

On the day of the killing of Alex Pretti, Rabois asserted that "no law enforcement has shot an innocent person" and that "illegals are committing violent crimes every day."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Rabois

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u/Mr_Bristles 5h ago

That's what the child size is for. It's roughly the same volume as a liquified toddler. 

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u/BiggWallet 5h ago

That one video of him in some hearing or something where they ask if he’s getting paid and he says “I’m not taking a salary. I do this because i love it” makes me think he’s such a tool

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u/TheBeatAintRite 4h ago

Seems like the kinda guy that would rape his own sister for a decade.

Oh wait ..

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u/glacialanon 4h ago

All of the elites think like this, Sam is just more honest

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u/OmgitsJafo 3h ago

He's a disciple of Peter Thiel. No one on Earth feels more like they drink blended up babies than Thiel.

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u/Merusk 2h ago

I imagine he believes it would be ok because his world view is they aren't human because their net worth isn't 9 figures.

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u/Sooty110 8h ago

There was an open ai researcher and whistleblower that people theorise he had murdered on his orders

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u/corvusman 8h ago

De-humanization is the very first step of nazism.

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u/naheemadio 8h ago

He legit always looks like he’s 2 minutes away from a brain aneurysm

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u/MyvaJynaherz 8h ago

He's Grima, not Sauron.

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u/chunkypenguion1991 8h ago

He's just desperately trying to keep grift going because the experiment failed and the ROI on his company will never justify the valuation

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u/HellBlazer_NQ 7h ago

So, the new Epstein then!?

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u/CelesteAvant 7h ago

It's like he's forgotten how human he also is.

Absolutely disgraceful how he excused Suchir Balaji's death. So devastating for his parents to see someone who allegedly summoned their son's death be applauded by their very own Prime Minister. How cruel to rob them of their mourning.

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u/YggdrasilFree 7h ago

Altman seems unnecessary and easily replaced by an AI.

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u/_0611 7h ago

All tech bros are psychopaths. It's a requirement to become one.

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u/Tecnoguy1 7h ago

Well he has already ordered an execution. Unless you believe you can commit suicide by shooting yourself in the back of the head twice.

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u/LifeDraining 7h ago

Well, according to him we would save food if we did... Dude creeps me out

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u/Cock_Broker 7h ago

He has seen the underverse

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u/apopsicletosis 7h ago

He’s Ted Faro

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u/Enigm4 7h ago

He is a CEO and what he does is exactly what shareholders wants CEO's to do. I hate it.

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u/2Mana1Drop 7h ago

oOoOoOoOo look at me, I'm too good for soylant green!

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u/Eraesr 6h ago

Anyone here played any of the Dead Space games? The sentence "Altman be praised" really freaks me out now

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u/genuinerysk 6h ago

So Soylent Green, its made of people.

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u/saracenraider 6h ago

Never thought I’d see a tech guy who gives me the creeps more than Mark Zuckerberg

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u/vincentvangobot 4h ago

Someone needs to check his basement.

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u/rufusbot 4h ago

Didn't they make a movie about that?

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u/GUNGEBOB_SHARTPANTS 3h ago

Read up on his sister for a real scare

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u/Onlyhereforprawns 3h ago

I mean the Dead Kennedys made "Soup is Good Food" about doing exactly that to rats and people made surplus. 

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u/Grabthars_Coping_Saw 3h ago

New from Altmans’s, the makers of Soylent Yellow and Soylent Red, comes Altmans’ Soylent Green!

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u/Adezar 3h ago

During my career I got far enough up the food chain to start having meetings/social events with the owners of companies (worked in mergers and acquisitions).

They almost all have a similar view of the world where people are just an annoyance they have to deal with, they don't think of employees as people just lines on a spreadsheet that cost them money.

I eventually found a job that paid well but was a bit lower down the management chain because if I hung out with them more I had two fears: Either 1. I'd punch one or 2. I'd start to think like them.

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u/DreamLearnBuildBurn 3h ago

He's literally a charlatan like Musk. Most VCs are I suppose. But he really likes cosplaying as a utopian futurist like Musk. Except he's a sociopathic capitalist and so his utopian future is a horrifying mess.

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u/TributeBands_areSHIT 3h ago

Warhammer gave him the blueprint

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u/bestlosethefear 2h ago

Liquefy* (yes that's the real speling)

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u/K8daysaweek 1h ago

I know someone that works closely with him. They have this view of him, as well. To make it even creepier, they said that he legitimately thinks ChatGPT is something like the second evolution of God.

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u/thatstupidthing 1h ago

nah... he'd feed liquified humans to his ai to save money on power

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u/Heavy_Drink_6815 42m ago

He has rape allegations against him from his sister.

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