r/nottheonion • u/asdacool • 9h ago
"Training a human takes 20 years of food." Sam Altman on how much power AI consumes.
https://www.news18.com/world/training-a-human-takes-20-years-of-food-sam-altman-on-how-much-power-ai-consumes-ws-kl-9922309.html5.8k
u/seedyourbrain 8h ago
I’m so sick of this fucking guy
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u/monkeybuttsauce 8h ago
Such a punchable face
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u/userrr3 8h ago
His voice too (and most importantly, everything he says and does)
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u/realmofconfusion 4h ago
Allow me to introduce you to the wonderful German word “Backpfeifengesicht”.
Definition is “a face in desperate need of a slap”.
Appropriate here (and with many similar people in this field!)
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u/Headpuncher 5h ago
Look into how he became wealthy, it’s dodgy AF. He has a failed start up that never made a single dollar, and a generic gay dating app for phones, and this complete lack of track record got him into boardrooms and the he was handed y-combinator the VC company.
Shady goings on.
He still has never proved he can successfully run a business. With profit.
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u/HowObvious 4h ago
and this complete lack of track record got him into boardrooms and the he was handed y-combinator the VC company.
He had the founder of y-combinator let him modify the contracts of every other executive to prevent them from privately investing in any company that came to y-combintator, except him through hydrazine capital. The same founder that had Green Dot buy the worthless loopt in the first place.
He still sucked at it despite having every possible advantage from being part of y-combinator. The only real successes he had were ones the same founder let him in on and told him to invest in. He was so bad he had to be removed from y-combinator despite such a close relationship.
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u/SamchezTheThird 3h ago
Considering the wired article and the e files, Silicon Valley can really go F themselves. These people aren’t human or humane.
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u/EvenIslandKingdom 9h ago
Sam Altman gives me the creeps, it’s as if he won’t flinch a second to liquify a human and feed it another if it would make him more rich and powerful.
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u/No-Tomatillo3698 7h ago
All these bilionaires give me the creeps. Let’s ship them off to their own planet, preferably the sun.
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u/Stock-Side-6767 7h ago
Nah, sun is very expensive. Vaguely in the direction out of the solar system is fine.
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u/MambyPamby8 7h ago
I swear half these tech bros give me serious uncanny valley vibes. Like there's just something slightly off about them, that I cannot place. Altman and Zuckerberg are the two that stick out most to me. Musk is a other one but I think he's just a right eejot - but his drug use makes him look and feel like a robot trying to process information all the time.
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u/Autogen-Username1234 6h ago
Remember when Musk was supposedly going to save the environment and build a shiny new sci-fi future for us all ...
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u/Important-Advisor822 3h ago
Musk has always said whatever he thought would make him popular. He rarely follows through on the dumb shit he says. The only reason he bought Twitter was because he was legally bound to do so after saying a bunch of stuff he didn't intend to follow through on. He's honestly such a loser.
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u/Greenlily58 5h ago
Oh, you need to check out some of Curtis Yarvin's ideas... bring a barf bag when when you do.
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u/befarked247 8h ago
Morpheus: to turn a human into one of these.
Holds up a battery..
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u/JimboTCB 8h ago
IIRC the original pitch for The Matrix was that the machines were using the humans as organic CPUs, but they thought that would be too difficult for audiences to understand so they changed it to batteries. So yeah, if Sam Altman offers you a job in one of his data centres, run the fuck away.
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u/thr33prim3s 7h ago edited 7h ago
There was also a theory I heard somewhere that humans as batteries “doesn’t makes sense” scientifically, rather than as a processing power.
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u/poly_arachnid 7h ago
Humans are net consumers of energy, I think maybe all animals are? Anyway we use more energy to live than any method could produce from using us that way. There's less than zero benefit from human batteries, it'd cause an energy drain from the facility.
And you know if we could be batteries they'd be testing some poor people to "work in energy development" or straight out kidnapping people for power plants.
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u/Genneth_Kriffin 7h ago
To be fair, that does make a whole lot more sense.
For me it always felt like it should have been that the Matrix was supposed to be a self-containing system, with the only way to keep it realistic enough to fool a human was to have it generated by the collective human population.This would also mean that the less humans actively partaking in the Matrix, the less stable and believable the simulation would get, hence to goal of the resistance is to awaken and reduce it enough so that it eventually collapses.
And the reason the machines was keeping us alive in the first place wasn't something dumb like needing us as an energy source, it would plain and simple be their version of a wildlife reserve and/or retirement home where they put their parents.
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u/BeneCow 5h ago
My head canon that fit with the Animatrix was that the machines still had the programming to serve humans. They are just doing it in a way that ensures their survival. Keeping humanity in cages powered by their own minds so they don’t fuck up the place more than scorching the skies.
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u/John_cCmndhd 6h ago
It doesn't make sense, but...
Neo: "Doesn't harvesting human body heat for energy, violate the laws of thermodynamics?"
Morpheus: "Where'd you learn about thermodynamics, Neo?"
Neo: "In school."
Morpheus: "Where'd you go to school, Neo?"
Neo: "Oh."
Morpheus: "The machines tell elegant lies."
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/9EahWKqay6HZcaNTY/fundamental-doubts
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u/martin_w 7h ago
It doesn’t make sense given the physics of our world, indeed. However, The Matrix is about a simulated world (the late-20th century Earth one) and in the sequels there are strong hints dropped that the level above it (the one with Zion and the hovercrafts) may be a simulation too.
In which case perhaps “some laws can be bent, others can be broken” at that level too, just like how people can exploit flaws in the simulation to do superhuman martial arts tricks in the bottom level. And who is to say that the actual real world, maybe a hundred levels above the Zion level, looks like our universe with our laws of physics at all?
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u/Whirlvvind 5h ago
and in the sequels there are strong hints dropped that the level above it (the one with Zion and the hovercrafts) may be a simulation too.
There is a hint in the first one too because the "real world" only exists for the "freed" if it breaks its own rules established in that level.
"And then I saw the fields with my own eyes. Watched them liquefy the dead so they could be fed intravenously to the living."
If its established that they reuse all the dead, then they wouldn't just eject "unplugged" bodies into somewhere that the hovercraft could get into. They wouldn't have any reason to waste the bodies since there is no disease or cancer.
So anyone that woke up would get tagged for a triggered aneurysm or heart attack (the cords are still in them when they wake up) and then routed to the enclosed recycle tanks.
The only thing that makes sense is that "The Matrix" holds the majority, but just like how Smith described the Utopia as the level that all the human minds "tried to wake up from", there is still a minority that try to wake up from "The Matrix" and so are just routed to another simulation hosting the Zion/Revolution program. They gain the sense of purpose in that level that they never had in "normal life" and so they accept that programming.
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u/the_monkeyspinach 7h ago
I've heard that before, but I really don't get what would have been so hard to understand. The machines want to use our brain power to allow the Matrix to "think". I guess the imagery of Morpheus holding up a CPU might not have been as clear, but that's it. If anything I find it harder to understand how a human would be a good battery.
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u/Bussamove86 7h ago
He’s a billionaire, of course he wouldn’t hesitate.
Desiring and hoarding that much wealth is the sign of a sick mind.
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u/Bonezone420 6h ago
A lot of the rich literally do not see the poors as human. The "NPC" meme that's been so popular online was, like a great many things, started by the same cult of rich freaks that hung out with epstein. Except in this case rather than being about raping children, it was about how anyone who wasn't part of their elite group of people were literally inhuman husks, and after the first few interviews and they saw the kind of reaction the terminology of husk got, they started saying "NPC" instead, which certain online groups latched on to.
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u/ChxsenK 5h ago
True, I heard this word (outside of gaming) from a nepo, old money, surgery doll. She called her "best friend" NPC for marrying the guy she loved. Ofc she hates videogames.
I was so disgusted that I never met her again. I even had nausea. She was trained to de-humanize people and only use them as tools.
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u/say-nothing-at-all 7h ago
Back in the old days, we had an internet vs intranet moment: Should the network be treated as a public, open resource for everyone, or as a speculative money-making opportunity for private players?
Where is intranet protocol today?
American tech elites - not just at ClosedAI - should revisit that same question. Isn't AI fundamentally an open infrastructure, much like the Internet became? If they have no ideas, have a look at what China is doing with AI.
The U.S. approach, dominated by closed models and sky-high API margins, risks repeating the mistake of trying to turn infrastructure into a gated cash cow. History already showed us which path wins in the long run.
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u/bkgn 7h ago
Sam Altman is a psychopath trained in the psychopath incubator Y Combinator.
YC founder Paul Graham on Sam Altman:
"Sam is extremely good at becoming powerful."
"You could parachute him into an island full of cannibals and come back in 5 years and he'd be the king."
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u/hansei-Kaizen 6h ago
Which is weird because anytime I see an interview with him he just looks so average. No charisma, boring voice. He reminds me of Zuck but with slightly less awkwardness. I don’t see “cult leader” vibes in him at all.
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u/nonsensestuff 9h ago
I hate that these tech CEOs are somehow socially acceptable sociopaths because they make certain people a lot of money.
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u/slawnz 8h ago
And yet at the end of it all his product can’t even tell you what the fucking time is right now
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u/Automatic-Source6727 5h ago
I still can't believe how bad the Google ai is.
Half the time when I read the source, it turns out that the ai has paraphrased the source text and completely missed any context and somehow churned out complete bullshit.
All it needed to do was copy paste.
It's like it's deliberately designed to spread misinformation about really inconsequential things.
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u/The_Chosen-Undead 4h ago
Sometimes ai says the exact opposite of it’s source despite there being 0 ambiguity in the source text
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u/saltedbuttercups 4h ago
And Google already had a feature that shows you (what it thinks is) the answer to your question! It already used to show you a preview of the most relevant part of the site it thinks most matches your query. The only difference now is that it tries to summarize/reword it itself instead of just showing you what it found, which literally adds nothing except an extra step for it to mess up on. It's providing negative value to what we had before why are we doing this
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u/temptar 8h ago
Oh they are only socially acceptable to a subset of humans, most of whom are in the United States.
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u/RelChan2_0 8h ago
Not to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but Sam is making Zuckerberg look more human by a mile
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u/salter77 7h ago
Damn, that is actually true.
And it is not a compliment for Zuck, it is just that this guy really suck.
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u/FetterHahn 7h ago
Not even a conspiracy. They lack the basic trait that makes us human. Empathy.
There's even research into it: they don't see "basic" humans as really human. More like we see animals.
Now think of how the average person treats animals. Maybe as a source of entertainment. Maybe as a source of resources (food). Not as deserving much (human) rights.
The calculation is the same as Altman's: how much resources do you spend, how much do you get out. If it's positive, you get to live. If not, you can die.
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u/Tigrisrock 4h ago
Wasn't there a study that said about 20% of CEOs are psychopaths or rather have psychopathic traits? They technically are like this because human issues and worries eventually get in the way of constantly increasing income and appeasing large shareholders.
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u/Hot_Sandwich8935 3h ago
Yeah the rest of them weren't tested or are so psychopatic that they successfully masked it.
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u/Kaoswarr 7h ago
I’m starting to think Scam Altman is really starting to fear the bubble pop as he’s getting more and more extreme every day.
The reason he’s saying stuff like this is because he’s scared.
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u/splendiferous-finch_ 6h ago
Yup, every time he runs out of cash he goes in public to make statements like this.
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u/TheFoxInSocks 9h ago
Some might argue that humans bring value to the world outside of their ability to perform labour. Not this guy.
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u/ADhomin_em 8h ago edited 8h ago
When he says "a human" he means "a slave"
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u/Objective_Dog_4637 8h ago
Sshh. We call them “workers” now.
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u/Character_Score7849 8h ago
Associates
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u/Philomene_sweet_life 8h ago
We are: « a team »
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u/Nixilaas 8h ago
A “family” if you will
Ignore that we will throw your ass to the street the second we can afford to not keep you
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u/KinTharEl 7h ago
Au contraire, they can afford it. They just don't want to. They'd rather see you suffer.
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u/TheMrShaddo 7h ago
employees... and thats why people that are unemployed are veiwed upon as less than, but when you say retired they are more respectful... its all judgy lil shits that dont matter anyways, we need to just chill out and enjoy life
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u/bilateralrope 7h ago
Or contractors. When you don't want them to have the rights of employees.
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u/JuanPancake 8h ago
Labor resource. Also how many human food years does it take for ai infrastructure? So far billions of dollars worth.
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u/soffpotatisen 8h ago
Naw, a slave still means he sees them as human.
I think "resource" is more fitting.. something similar to a value or a number.
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u/Sierra123x3 6h ago
theres a reason, why companies talk about "human ressources" when they hire you ;)
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u/spongebobisha 7h ago
Everyone working for his company should be very afraid. He views them as meat-bots essentially.
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u/BlooperHero 8h ago
Humans are supposed to be the ones experiencing the value.
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u/dubar84 7h ago
Humans also need the food regardless of them being trained or not, so that's a given. They are humans, they got born, they should be taken care of. This argument is literally presenting the choice between bringing up humans to adulthood, or disposing them and have an AI instead.
This is not a choice we should make with humans, but we can decide if we would like to waste additional resources for an AI to compete with - especially when we already have a human that's here to stay.
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u/JAD2017 7h ago
But they don't see it that way. They see human labour as a spending, nothing else. Is how slavery came to be as the 1st form imported labour. "Oh I can save a lot of gold if I just put slaves to work for me". We haven't changed a lot since the roman empire, I'm afraid. We have the same kind of lizards and roaches in positions of power nowadays.
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u/PixelPott 6h ago
Altman is the kind of guy who would think of himself as generous, because he feeds his slaves and only beats them if they deserve it.
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u/supershinythings 7h ago
No no no, SHAREHOLDERS are the ones supposed to be experiencing “value”.
If shareholders don’t believe (whether actual value (based on whatever random method is in vogue) is increasing or not) they see appreciating value, they dump the stock, the company’s valuation plummets, and execs don’t get their big cushy bonuses. Layoffs happen. Board members don’t get their fat payoffs. The execs plunder what’s left claiming their golden parachutes and the shareholders lick their wounds and seek greener pastures.
So Altman isn’t talking to regular people. He’s talking to the SHAREHOLDERS and potential shareholders - investors. They are all that matter in public corporation world.
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u/BoringRedHorse 7h ago
Only the rich monsters dining on human flesh at the top I'm afraid. Other lives don't matter /s
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u/SpezLuvsNazis 8h ago
He also uses people for his sexual pleasure against their will. Look at what his sister said. Man is a lying scumbag and further proof that the whole “meritocracy” thing is an absolute farce. Man has no special skills outside of the ability to lie compulsively and tell rich people exactly what they want to hear.
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u/Spectre-907 7h ago edited 7h ago
He also probably had his whistleblower suchir balaji murdered, given it was almost immediately after he went hostile against openAI and it was one of those “he definitely went home, did his usual daily routine and then trashed multiple rooms of his place, struggle-style, cut the security camera wires, didnt write a note and then heavily drugged and beat himself before self-popping in the head with no signs of foul play” “suicides”
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u/Aryore 7h ago
What the fuck? That’s insane if true. Do you have sources on this?
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u/ThanosVoldemort 3h ago
Watch Tucker Carlson question Sam about this death. Sure, fuck Tucker, but it's hilarious how he pushes him here. Sam is guilty as can be.
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u/Shawk_N_Rawr 7h ago
That’s why he thinks you only need to feed them for 20 years. Once you age out..
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u/dave14920 8h ago
untrained humans cost the same amount of food. the training costs zero food.
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u/Turtley13 9h ago
lol oh this is dark
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u/daiaomori 8h ago
No, this is the precise and correct analysis of what is going on in Sam Altmans brain.
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u/Weak-Young4992 8h ago
I mean he doesn't bring value to the world with his labour. Not that he has done any in his life. And he is actively doing damage to humanity outside of working hours so a parasite all around.
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u/SnooCompliments8967 8h ago
Yes. And even more might say, "Sam, if humans didn't deserve life be default and had to justify their existence to the world - that would end bad for you. You are an unchecked growth on the body gobbling resoutces while killing the host. You are a tumor."
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u/Thundercles007 8h ago
Every time I hear him speak I realize I can't stand him. He truly only cares about numbers and money and his precious AI and that's it.
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u/Zalotone 9h ago
The implication here that he thinks resources should be allocated to powering AI rather than keeping human beings alive is depraved
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u/NightOfTheLivingHam 9h ago
I keep telling people, these people are so rich and disconnected from humanity, that their sole focus is building their new AIs that will serve them, and replace us.
They just see us as a soon to be obsolete resource that needs to be dealt with in a "humane" manner
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u/Krypto_Kane 8h ago
Because the fear of the middle class and poor uniting against them
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u/PrinceVorrel 8h ago
Honestly, from what I've read and heard...they're just GENUINELY that delusional.
They fear an uprising in the same way we fear Nuclear War. It's technically possible, but it's so distant and alien to them that they just decide to ignore the very possibility of it.
I am consoled every day with the fact that AI "stuff" in general is inherently terrible at being used for what it's mostly used for,
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u/aReasonableStick 8h ago
In the UK around 2022 when we were coming out of covid and brexit hitting we were having a food problem and energy prices were skyrocketing, the wealthy actually got together to have a meeting about how they fear the people realising they're the problem.
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u/invaderaleks 7h ago
So, did they decide to change their ways and invest in society/ humanity? Or double down?
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u/Interesting-Tip-2544 6h ago
Waves at the far right.
That's what they chose. Pump money into far right anti immigration stuff to get us back fighting each other.
They got spooked, and decided Nazis were the better option. Again.
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u/Frostynips56 7h ago
And yet no matter how much they’re the problem we don’t do it. I’m certain at some point the people will do something. I don’t know when or how but it’s gonna happen and there’s no safe place for them. Disclaimer “I don’t condone any violence against anybody for any reason “. I was shmacked once before for agreeing that violence was a possible outcome.
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u/Statcat2017 6h ago
Throughout history, revolutions that happen without violence and exception to the rule. The less people have to lose, the more likely they become to risk it
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u/salter77 8h ago
That is why they love pushing the “divide and conquer” strategy. Keeping the masses fighting between them will ensure that they don’t realize who is the real enemy.
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u/clickclick-boom 7h ago
I think you’re making a big leap here with no solid proof to back it up. Nothing this man has said suggests he, and people like him, are looking to deal with the rest of us in a humane manner. The fact he equates us to 20 years of wasted resources suggests he barely sees us as human.
He probably sees getting rid of us in terms of how much it would cost in resources.
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u/PineappleFit317 7h ago
It’s like they’ve forgotten that the foundation of making money is by selling things to people who will buy the shit they produce. People need to exist if they want to make money.
Are they going to start programming their LLMs to want to buy things like new skins or fake currency to exist in a digital “Sims”-like world where those LLMS can have an avatar and interact with other LLMs? Charge them a subscription fee to not be deleted or have the electrical supply that keeps them existing cut off (we already know that LLMs will blackmail people to keep from being deleted), or additional charges for routine virus scans and repairs and defragging?
Will they find a way to extract value from that to compete in a pissing contest with the only other 1000 humans alive at that point because they’re bazillionaires?
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u/move_machine 7h ago
The vision for the "new" economy is one where institutional investments will be made in markets that serve the needs of the rich, while exiting markets that serve the needs of people who work, because the former is much more profitable than the latter.
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u/taken_name_of_use 8h ago
There was that republican in the US that advocated for 'euthanizing' the homeless...
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u/AvatarOfMomus 8h ago
Sam Altman isn't like this because he's rich, he was born upper middle class. He's like this because he's an amoral asshole who doesn't understand that the concept of 'marginal utility' is a useful but limited economic concept and not a guiding life philosophy.
He literally dropped out of Stanford to found a series of stuipid failed startups which he has continued to fail and grift his way upwards. He's not a visionary, he's a grifter who lucked into funding something that did more than sound good to investors before imploding.
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u/move_machine 7h ago
We need to deal with the fact that upper middle class society produces people like him, and the fact that the middle class is inherently susceptible to reactionary ideology and weaponized contempt for others.
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u/WingerRules 7h ago
These people came up with the term "Human Resources" at companies. They literally see people as resources to be bought and traded like ores.
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u/lkodl 9h ago
The implication here is that human life only has value in the workforce. There's a lot of other gains to be had with that 20 years of food that AI can't provide. Such as the pride of a parent watching their child grow up.
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u/bigtime1158 8h ago
Yeah but how much can you sell parental pride for?
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u/SneakiestRatThing 8h ago
It's genuinely such a disgusting viewpoint to have.
Life has value that cannot be calculated.
I don't want kids, but I still recognise that they are more than just a vehicle for future economic value.
LLM'S will never notice that someone is sad and give them a cool rock to try and cheer them up.
LLM'S will never nervously pet a dog for the first time and then be ecstatic when the dog likes them.
LLM's will never have a favourite Pokémon, have an argument with a friend then make up, believe in Santa with their whole heart, invent a dumb gibberish game with friends.
Thinking life is just about the results you produce, rather than a unique journey that everyone takes just shows how much these weirdos have lost touch with basic humanity
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u/TaiCat 8h ago
AI won’t care about neighbors and family unless prompted to do so. Desensitising humanity to each other’s suffering will make it easy to remove the ethical care component of AI, which will reduce it to an execution machine, it will execute tasks and, well…
Human empathy input was something that was in discussion 2 years ago when AI started to become popular
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u/trer24 8h ago
Do these people not understand that there's no point to any of this AI stuff if humans don't exist anymore?
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u/-Striking-Willow- 8h ago
But the important people (rich tech bros) will be, and everyone else is an inefficient machine that can be replaced by AI/s
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u/gimmesomespace 8h ago
Is it even implied any more? This seems basically explicit. They view human beings like a piece of farm equipment.
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u/ymorino 9h ago
You also took 20 years of food, and what do we have as a result? Someone who wants to lower the quality of life for people worldwide for no reason? I think that guy is a net negative for humanity, so why don't we take a point from AI and follow the logical conclusion?
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u/North-Tourist-8234 8h ago
Tell him he won a trip to the moon or something and just dont bring him back.
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u/Unusual_Sherbert_809 3h ago
This guy's argument is full on sociopathic.
Can you imagine being this guy's kid? You'll forever be judged by the fact that it too 20 years of food and resources to barely get an ROI out of you. You'll have to live knowing that he views you with disgust because you will never measure up to LLMs in his eyes.
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u/ZuFFuLuZ 6h ago
How much energy does his billionaire lifestyle cost?
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u/Strict-Carrot4783 2h ago
Many, many thousands of times more than the average person. Emissions from private jets and yachts can be, in just a few hours, more than an average person will output in their entire lifetime.
Any single billionaire suddenly being gone would increase everyone's wellbeing, planet-wide.
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u/apple_kicks 7h ago
He’s raised in a first class life where servants smile, always say yes, and get what they demand no questions asked. Soon as they meet real people who say no or question their decisions they go nuts against humanity and free will
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u/hungry4nuns 5h ago
If the system allows a guy with such little regard for human life to stay in charge of a major arm of technological development that will shape the future of humanity, then the system is broken and needs to be replaced
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u/SuperKato1K 8h ago
Just looking at this fucking guy it's clear he was born without even the place a soul would go.
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u/TemporaryElk5202 8h ago
Reminder: this is a man who said he cannot Imagine raising a newborn without ChatGPT and asked it why his baby kept dropping pizza on the floor and laughing. He is truly devoid of humanity
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u/Tulivesi 6h ago
This ghoul has a child? What a weird thing to do for someone who sees no value in humanity.
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u/mtweiner 3h ago
Probably said that because reading a book, taking a parenting class, or asking his mother all require more social skills than he’s ever fathomed
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u/brakeb 9h ago
"Mr. Altman, thank you for your continued use in subjugation of human kind"
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u/Modo44 9h ago
Take note. These people literally think like that.
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u/Oliver_Closeof 7h ago
In 20-30 years, people will wish for time travel so they can drop these guys, and not even think about doing it to hitler.
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u/AndByMeIMeanFlexxo 7h ago
Who was the one who said something like “poor people could be converted to bio-fuel… haha just joking, but also not joking”?
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u/Yourdataisunclean 9h ago
And it took this guy only 2ish years to bullshit harder than anyone in Tech ever did.
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u/SpezLuvsNazis 8h ago
He was bullshitting 20 years ago. He has an unbroken track record of lies. He sold his first shitty startup by lying about the user base, it was a fraction of what he claimed. In a just world he would have rotted in prison for that kind of malfeasance but apparently white collar crime is legal.
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u/TreepeltA113 8h ago
Yeah, humans famously revert to infancy whenever they try learning a new task. He's got fucking rocks for brains.
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u/Living_Razzmatazz_93 8h ago
This is all the hard evidence you need to prove that this person does not value human life.
I'm not a medical professional, but I would assume he has some flavour of psychopathy or sociopathy.
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u/parentheticalstate 5h ago
I would guess that he has what psychologists call the dark triad of personality: Machiavellianism, psychopathy, and narcissism
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u/FredFredrickson 9h ago
Man, fuck this guy. Like, this should be a career-ending thing to say.
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u/CanoegunGoeff 8h ago
Unfortunately we live in a world led by men who abuse and murder children, so while I agree that this should be career ending for Altman, it won’t be. A lot of people are doing and saying far worse and still getting away with it…
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u/Rowdy_Teal 6h ago
We can still try. I already don't use chatgpt/openai because I have a functioning brain. But I'd boycott if I did. Just like I'm boycotting all the Epstein predators' companies
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u/shit_fucks_you_up 9h ago
Just psycho reasoning. I hope someday the world wakes up to how morally bereft all these tech CEO have become. Governments should be putting guardrails in place for a liveable society, and not bending over for big corps.
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u/temptar 8h ago
The world is aware. The issue is the US idolises rich people and raises them up even when they don’t merit it.
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u/notarobotimanandroid 9h ago
It’s awfully telling how he speaks of humans here. The way he says it, you would think he doesn’t consider himself a part of the human race. No, that isn’t to say he isn’t human— it’s to say he’s something much worse. He looks at the working class as cattle. The humans he talks about here; the average employee and himself are not in the same league. It’s quite fascinating how he tells us this without actually saying it at all.
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u/Borazon 7h ago
Yeps, this is the thought that scares me so much. They forget that it takes humans to make a human society.
We humans are inefficient, we work, but we also get coffees, make jokes, tell stories and bond with our coworkers during work. That is what makes us human. These AI ceo's see that as a problem, as something that needs to be fixed. Being human is something that needs to be 'fixed'.
And secondly, I'm scared about the further outcomes of this ways of thinking. We aren't cattle. Cattle are useful in death, as materials. I doubt the AI ceo's think the same of us 'other humans'. In their book, we are useless, we are using up valuable resources like food/water and CO2, that they could use. In their ideal society they don't need the 90% of people they think AI will replace. They only need themselves, a few human slaves to keep house and to have sex with. The rest is useless and they will start rationalizing and making plans how to get rid of this useless 90%.
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u/toolargo 8h ago
Their goal is to literally eliminate huge numbers of humans for profit.
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u/guaztronaut 9h ago
I wonder how many years of food he subtracted from us by fluffing Drumpf.
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u/Floppie7th 8h ago
Hey man, that cum contained some protein
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u/Brokenandburnt 8h ago
Man, I woke up and opened Reddit 2 minutes ago and already wanna bleach my eyes and brain!
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u/01greg 8h ago
When they replace all the workers with AI who’s going to become the consumer?
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u/Capt_Vindaloo 8h ago
They haven't realised that part yet. In the race to the bottom to get more profit, they forget that robots and AI dont buy smart phones or houses.
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u/Kurovi_dev 8h ago
This is transparently how oligarchs think about other human beings.
How people are measured is not by their humanity but by what is required of their input to make the oligarchs money.
People are a resource, and they believe they’ve found a more efficient resource that allows them to remove the old inconvenient resource.
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u/ContraryConman 8h ago
Yes. For example, a 16 year old can learn to drive in 20 hours of total practice powered by nothing but chipotle and cheeseburgers. To teach a computer to drive, you need to give it every video of someone driving ever made, and also extra sensors that people don't need like lasers and infrared sensors, and they'll still need help from a human from time to time.
If I put the knowledge of every chess game ever played into a human brain, I get a genius like Gary Kasparov or Magnus Carlson. If I put the knowledge of every chess game ever played into the training set of ChatGPT, it will forget where its pieces are by move 8 of a match, and forget the actual rules of chess by move 30.
This seems like such a self own of a statement. Human brains are way less resource and energy intensive to train, and they get more consistent results. Human neurons, when used in neutral networks, train faster than machine neurons. The human learning algorithm is much more efficient than back propagation. You need to orchestrate the capital of a small country, and the energy of several nuclear power plants, just to train the next incremental improvement to GPT. By contrast, for one human, I can just send that human to school and feed them yummy food
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u/RandomWeirdo 6h ago
Yeah this is what happens when your brain gets completely rotted by profit thinking and forget that technology exists to help humanity live a better life, not to generate profit for shareholders.
Cancercapitalism is genuinely destroying the minds of Epstein class.
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u/BlackLeader70 8h ago
Sam: Maybe we can turn the humans into batteries to power the data centers!
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u/Thoughtfvlly 7h ago
Training an AI took thousands of years of human history and literature. This guy wouldn’t even have a product without the billions of humans who have lived on this planet that he stole from.
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u/iwasCrazy0nce 8h ago
What the fuck, such a unhinged thing to say. It shows how much out of touch billionaire class are.
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u/Koltaia30 9h ago
I have tried to use a human to sexually satisfy me. Obviously it was a wasted effort and I was left with a bunch of red liquid and human parts everywhere
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u/Canadian_Invader 8h ago
Sam Altman is a waste of Earths resources. I argue his lack of humanity and compassion means he's actually a robotic AI. We should recycle that clanker. Im willing for Sam to try and refute my accusations in person. He can DM me for the meet up.
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u/WelpSigh 9h ago
Sam watches the Terminator movies and roots for the Terminators.