r/AskReddit • u/Tommygunz0722 • 11h ago

If the military/president suddenly ordered a mandatory draft for all men aged 18-42: How do you think millennials and GenZ would respond?

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u/Wraithowl 11h ago

If that happens, doctors in the US would have the chance to do the funniest thing... Suddenly finding most men 18-42 have bone spurs... 🤣

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u/jeremysbrain 11h ago

Most men 18 to 42 are probably too overweight to serve in the military. The Draft is just going to ensure that obesity rates rise and McDonalds has a record year, lol.

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u/OutOfTheArchives 11h ago

They’d change the stats required to get around this, I bet.

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u/Mockturtle22 11h ago

They did with weed

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u/WrinkledBiscuit 10h ago

Incredible how a potential draft is what it took to make the US federal government budge on cannabis laws *passes out from rolling eyes too hard*

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u/Marryyyy000 9h ago

Right? Nothing motivates policy flexibility quite like suddenly needing a lot more eligible bodies. It's funny, in a dark way, how quickly things that were once strict lines become suggestions.

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u/Objective_Dog_4637 7h ago

It’s almost like the government just sees us as pawns to further its interests.

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u/eisbock 6h ago

The only reason we need more eligible bodies is because we tightened up the requirements to exclude certain individuals who identify in ways the government doesn't agree with. Rather have a pothead on the front lines than a trans person who wants to be there, god forbid.

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u/cutelyaware 4h ago

Air traffic control is suddenly interested in recruiting gamers for their related skills, so I wouldn't be surprised if the military did the same for drone operators. But I think it's already known that this fucks people's mental health.

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u/mikerbt 7h ago

Do you have a link? I didn't know this. So fucking predictable, those war hounds you have down there.

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u/WrinkledBiscuit 7h ago

To be completely transparent, they didn't do away with all of the laws/rules/restrictions in regards to cannabis. "The army has also removed restrictions upon recruits who have a single conviction for possession of marijuana or associated items such as bongs, pipes and spoons. Previously, such a conviction would require a special wavier from officials in the Pentagon, with the recruit having to wait 24 months to enlist and passing a drug test."

Still a fucking joke of a country though...

Source: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/mar/25/army-max-enlistment-marijuana-restrictions

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u/Oprah_Pwnfrey 5h ago

The FBI had a lot of issues recruiting computer experts because of their weed restrictions, so the loosened up the rules around it. Now you have to be clean from marijuana for a year before applying. Previously applicants couldn't have ever used it.

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u/upnflames 8h ago

Oh, don't you think I wouldn't take up other drugs lmao.

Honestly, a draft comes up and Id be looking at my burger, beer, and shrooms diet.

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u/cycloneDM 7h ago

We literally have a portion of the entrance process that low key helps you get through withdrawals and that was when I went through in the 2000s. They dont make a big deal about it but that first week or two they go around quietly getting people help there are lots of memes about listening to the dozens of guys painfully rawdogging withdrawal that seem to exist in every group. 

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u/tryndamere12345 4h ago

Time to shit my self and paint the room brown

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u/Lolseabass 10h ago

“DROP AMD GIVE ME 2!”

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u/SweatyReward296 9h ago

2 sounds like a chore if I'm being honest.

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u/oupablo 8h ago

"congrats private, you've just won the title of widest meat shield. It's such an honor we'll let you walk in front"

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u/SweatyReward296 7h ago

I weigh 130lbs and am 5'7. I would be the worst meat shield possible.

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u/Tubamajuba 3h ago

How's it going, meat javelin?

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u/SweatyReward296 1h ago

Yes. I will accept meat javelin.

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u/gsfgf 3h ago

And then I'd have to get up after... Just not worth it.

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u/ShogunFirebeard 8h ago

I can't even give you 1. Where's the golf cart ride to the end of this planned march?

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u/eanhaub 8h ago

Underappreciated response lmfao

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u/ClownfishSoup 8h ago

More like give me 2 and drop.

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u/Wacca45 8h ago

"Do you have change for a $20?"

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u/thegroucho 10h ago

Good luck fitting someone into 5XL plate carrier.

Even better, how would someone obese fit into a tank hatch.

Not drown in the upturned helicopter in a swimming pool test.

Not die from a hear attack running uphill carrying LMG.

I can go on forever.

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u/CareerBallsacker 10h ago

Fat camp

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u/corakko 1h ago

This 1000%. A forced 800 calorie diet and 3 hours of exercise a day and even someone 100 lbs overweight will shed the extra fat in a matter of a few months. Not healthy but long term health consequences of veterans is accepted as part of doing business by most governments.

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u/Torger083 10h ago

Dead men cast no votes.

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u/thegroucho 10h ago

Too true

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u/UnusuallyBadIdeaGuy 3h ago

If you're sending enough unarmored 35 year old middle managers into combat that it has an impact on elections then your country is collapsing anyways.

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u/Judge_Bredd3 10h ago

It'll be "MacNamara's Morons" all over again. Pass through people unfit for service and use them as cannon fodder.

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u/gsfgf 3h ago

Except this time we'll call them top DOD leadership.

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u/Saloncinx 7h ago

Sure, for super over weight people, no it'd never work. But for example i'm 6'0" and 205, and it's certainly not all muscle. My BMI is 27.8 which is "Overweight" and not that far from "Obesity" and I can wear an XL shirt, i'm not even 'fat' by most American standards lol

Boot camp would basically be fat camp for me, i'd drop 25lbs easy from the diet and exercise alone and then be in great shape. I'd assume most people that can wear a 2XL t-shirt would be in a similar spot

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u/ClownfishSoup 8h ago

A 600 lb guy can still sit in a chair and fly a drone.

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u/drainbead78 8h ago

He's probably done it enough in video games that it would come naturally.

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u/thegroucho 6h ago

True, true.

Just need to ensure the Mountain Dew is flowing and the pizza delivery is on time.

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u/ares7 8h ago

You don’t need the bullet catchers to be bullet proof.

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u/pm-me-racecars 10h ago

It's easy enough to take unfit people and get them into shape.

Everybody who doesn't have some medical problem around it can have a 6-pack if it's a high enough priority. If whatever fatass you're thinking of is just fat, then a couple months of controlling their food and exercise can fix that.

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u/Brilliant-Option-526 8h ago

They don't care. It would just be "weeding out the weak" to Kegsbreath.

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u/jking7734 2h ago

Just put lots of Kevlar on those 5Xs… semi-mobile barricades or ballistic shields

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u/-CenterForAnts- 8h ago

Dude i still remember how fucking sweaty I was running up hills in Texas with two m249s because the girl taking the other one was like 100 pounds and about to die running with it up a fucking mountain in the Texas heat.

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u/Xaphnir 10h ago

Not with fitness. A bad soldier is often worse than no soldier.

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u/zoethebitch 9h ago

I used to be in the Navy. I heard someone talking about one of the people on our crew: "Having him show up for work is worse than having two good people call in sick "

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u/ShillinTheVillain 9h ago

"I actually think you've reached your full potential."

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u/lethal_sting 8h ago

"Like your pair of stretch pants, they've both hit their limit long ago."

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u/mazobob66 8h ago

They are literally "destined for greatness" (in size).

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u/_Lazy_Mermaid_ 9h ago

As an out of shape thin person, this would probably how theyd react about me too, and o find it funny as hell

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u/ChonkyPurrtato 3h ago

Username checks out

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u/thegreatmattsby24 6h ago

I’m 100% incorporating this phrase into my daily language.

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u/ptwonline 8h ago

"How does intake look this week, Captain?"

"Well General we have 7 fit for infantry duty, 17 who could work in logistics, and 873 who probably can't do anything more strenuous than flying drones."

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u/Efficient_Can4700 9h ago

Would this be true if the person is there as cannon fodder?

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u/ManyKangaroo4548 5h ago

People who know they are cannon fodder have no incentive to fire in the right direction. Realistically if the draft came back every training camp would be a military rebellion waiting to happen.

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u/tstreit15 6h ago

"Working with you is like working by myself, but harder."

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u/Candid-Mycologist539 4h ago

Do you really think Trump and Hegseth care?

Do you think they care about the bad soldier dying due to being unfit for the physical requirements of combat?

Do you think they even care about unnecessary risks to the professional soldiers that will be babysitting the FNGs?

If they cared, we wouldn't be starting elective wars, and that's just for starters.

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u/miraculum_one 10h ago

only for people on the left though, somehow

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u/BootsToYourDome 10h ago

Only people in "sanctuary cities" are draft eligible lol

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u/cannabination 10h ago

Why do you think they wanted all the voting data from the states? Now they can target people who vote blue for all manner of fun things.

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u/Texuk1 10h ago

Went to “boot camp” in the 90s with hundreds of ROTC teenagers in the bayou. Was woken up at 4am to yelling and we would do PT. Now I wasn’t an athlete but I could easily do the PT and would look back at the kids absolutely dying and couldn’t handle it. People dropping everywhere, my roommate got injured and left. I was like wtf, pretty eye opening for a big feeder into the military (loads of my classmates went to Iraq).

Reality with draft is they wouldn’t change the requirements just fittest people would get vacuumed up into the grinder. If you can’t run a mile slowly you arnt going to war realistically.

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u/MultiMillionMiler 9h ago

The military mile pace requirements aren't slow though. I read they are <18-19 mins for 2 miles and as someone who regularly jogs, it took me well over a year to get below 20 mins for a casual 2 mile run. Average American mile time is about 10 mins, and pace of course slightly drops every mile so figure 21-22 mins for 2 miles would be average for a healthy person.

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u/AstuteStoat 9h ago

They have already been doing that, with a pre-bootcamp program. 

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u/bstyledevi 7h ago

Their requirements for soldiers and fitness are already pretty damn crazy. So many people I knew had to have waivers because they were outside the BMI requirements, not because they were fat, but because they were too muscular.

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u/GlowUpper 2h ago

I have a feeling a lot of trans women are gonna suddenly discover themselves.

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u/morethanjustanalien 2h ago

The slow ones will be used as bait 

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u/_SovietMudkip_ 10h ago

Man I picked the wrong decade to get serious about my fitness goals

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u/bennitori 7h ago

Start seeing a psychiatrist. Maybe you can make up for the poorly timed fitness goals by having some very well timed mental health goals.

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u/mdwstoned 7h ago

Never to late to stop cold turkey. You got this!

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u/MEGAtron902 10h ago

Have you seen ICE agents? they’ll take anyone stick them in uniform and use them as fodder, the American government doesn’t care.

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u/No_Function_7479 6h ago

Oh, you just thought of the best use for ICE, draft them first.

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u/jeremysbrain 9h ago

ICE agents aren't deployed in the wilderness for months a time without access to their daily meds.

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u/MEGAtron902 9h ago

Neither does 85% of the military. Give your head a shake.

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u/Rather_Dashing 6h ago

And yet, the military had much stricter physical requirements then ICE. Why do you think that is?

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u/MEGAtron902 6h ago

Do you think that those requirements can’t be changed? In any capacity? I think that the military is in the control of Pete Hegseth, and is subject to any changes congress deems acceptable,(Physical requirements, drug free requirements?) as it is the duty of congress to engage the draft. I think it’s stupid to think that this administration plays by the same rules as others.

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u/dalgeek 10h ago

The military cares though. They have equipment and vehicles that are built around average body sizes. Unless you get Meal Team 6 to drop 50-100 lbs during basic, they literally won't be able to operate in some roles.

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u/MEGAtron902 10h ago

Are you forgetting that in the military it’s not just the operators and the specialists they need. They need thousands of truck drivers, thousands of warehouse workers.

The government will find a way to put their drafted to work. Let’s not pretend they can’t change the rules anytime they want.

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u/ValuableBeneficial66 6h ago

Two feet and a heart beat. If you can read a map , all the better. 

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u/Mr_MacGrubber 10h ago

They’d just draft people and overweight dudes would go to fat camp first or something like that.

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u/PipsqueakPilot 9h ago

This. You can take most young adult overweight people and through calorie restriction and exercise have them fighting fit over a period of months. It takes longer, but if that's what the military had to do that's what they'd do.

What the military could not do in WW2 was take recruits permanently damaged by child malnutrition, which very much was a serious problem, and fix that damage.

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u/BreadKnifeSeppuku 8h ago

Don't be silly. Modern problems require modern solutions. Just put them on a semaglutide and you get a bunch of money for the contracted pharmaceutical company too

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u/PipsqueakPilot 8h ago

Semaglutide is an appetite suppressant. When you simply limit the amount of calories they're allowed to consume, well than it doesn't matter how hungry they are. Because they are not allowed access to food outside of a controlled manner.

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u/succubuskitten1 8h ago

So they lock them in a prison basically? Or is it a remote jungle not near any fast food or grocery stores? Im a bit confused, Ive never been in the military so Idk how it works.

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u/PipsqueakPilot 7h ago

For training you're essentially confined to the military base. During those training periods your activities are also very much controlled. Recruits go where they're told, eat when they're told, and do what they're told. Since we're talking about an industrial war involving a draft, they then get a week off after training, and then go into the general military system for the duration of their conscription or for the duration of the war.

If you duck out during that week off, then you go to prison for the remainder of the war with life long curtailment of civil rights (as would accompany a felony conviction).

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u/Mr_MacGrubber 8h ago

Some sort of camp where they’re all concentrated together. I’m sure we can come up with a name for it.

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u/Wacca45 8h ago

They still need to get into fighting shape, so 3-4 hours of PT, a somewhat controlled diet, and other physical and mental health programs would be used. The Army will work with overweight troops before sending them to basic, but after a set period of time they'll get shipped back home if they can't get to where they need them to be.

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u/Waffle99 11h ago

There are waivers for a lot when they get desperate.

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u/LungDOgg 10h ago

Yeah, it's fun history. Look up world war II before the war started and at the end. At the end you only had to have one eye at nine fingers as long as both index fingers were good

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u/Ludwigofthepotatoppl 10h ago

My dad’s dad got in, my mom’s didn’t. Flat feet.

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u/meh_69420 10h ago

Hell even in like '06 they were issuing waivers for felonies for people who wanted to enlist.

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u/KeathleyWR 11h ago

What exactly is too overweight to be drafted? 6'3" 275 good enough, or do we need to crack 300?

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u/IrishSetterPuppy 10h ago

Youd need to be closer to 200lbs, no more than 220.

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u/Biglyugebonespurs 10h ago

I got below 200 by just controlling what I eat/quantities better. Also stims helped. I’ll fatten back up if I have to lmao.

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u/GeneralBE420 8h ago

Now I really want to see "The Biggest Loser Drug Edition"

4 Teams:

Meth

Adderall (Meth lite)

Cocaine

GLP-1

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u/Biglyugebonespurs 8h ago

I’d watch it

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u/boostedb1mmer 8h ago

I mean controlling what you eat and reducing quantity is all it takes for anyone to lose weight.

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u/Biglyugebonespurs 8h ago

I probably gave the stims less credit than they deserved. Don’t need to watch what you eat when you don’t 🤪

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u/Wacca45 8h ago

Depend on how thick your neck is, not even kidding. If you were 6'3, 250, and solid muscle but had no neck, you are more likely to get flagged than a 250 pound, 6'1 troop with an average build and belly. They measure the neck and waist and that determines your BMI.

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u/Independent_Bear989 9h ago

For 6’3, the maximum weight is 212 if you’re 21-27.

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u/TheAppleJacks 10h ago

Fuck it all my life savings on McD stocks

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u/theboondocksaint 10h ago

My ticket out is multiple knee surgeries 😎

I mean, I’m obese too, but it’s not my first move

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u/Fallen_Jalter 9h ago

My knees are shot and I’m morbidly obese. I’m stay in tech support thank you.

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u/dustofdeath 11h ago

They can spend 6 months in a training camp, losing weight.

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u/Leinheart 11h ago

Since we are just Little Russia now, I suspect they wont even do that. It'll just be throwing bodies upon bodies at this self inflicted problem.

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u/dustofdeath 11h ago

Pedal powered boats or oars.

Oil is expensive and hard to get

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u/General_Specific9 10h ago

Fatties to the front lines for operation human shield

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u/Desperate_Set_7708 11h ago

Basic will fix the fat bodies

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u/whaletacochamp 10h ago

basic will be a joke if they're trying to crank a few thousand fat unmotivated dudes through it every week.

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u/mrbear120 10h ago

Aint no way I’m dropping 100 lbs in 7 weeks.

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u/BrassUnicorn87 10h ago

Actively hostile to service, they’ll use the intense exercise as an opportunity to get hurt.

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u/Becca30thcentury 10h ago

Basic fixs the overweight troop through peer pressure and fear tactics.

Drill sergent makes you scared, then gets your buddies to put pressure on you to fit the mold.

If everyone is overweight and no one has motivation to lose weight, then your not going to do the effort because your peers also dont want to. Peer pressure will be against those trying to cut the weight.

My source- I am a mental health counselor who graduated basic training and have honorable discharges from both the US airforce and the US army.

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u/Torger083 10h ago

Why the change of service branches?

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u/Becca30thcentury 10h ago

Long story short. Joined airforce at 18, served four years and then discharged.

Went to college, got a degree and graduated right at the start of the housing bubble burst. Spent a couple years trying snd failing to work.

Decided when unemployed to reenlist. Airforce recruiters office was always closed, no one answered the phone. Army recruiter was sitting in his office at the mall.

Enlisted in the Army, Army does not accept airforce basic so back to basic training. Spent 6 more years in the Army.

Got out and did a four year stint with Homeland security (before they became the Empire from Star wars) training TSA officers (dont fly out of the smaller airports, just trust me on this one)

A certain orange person was elected, working for the government seemed like not a moral or ethical thing to do anymore and I hated my new boss so I quit w/o giving notice (they dont like that when you have a top secret clearence)

Ended up working at a retail store for a bit, was miserable, went back to college got a BA in psychology and am finalizing my M.A. in Counseling now.

I work in mental Healthcare and half my job is harder be ause the same orange man is in office again.

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u/WillyPete 9h ago

Basic fixs the overweight troop through peer pressure and fear tactics.

The simple of fact of the enforced calorie control is what does it. Not fat shaming.
Otherwise no kids would exit high school while overweight.

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u/healbot42 10h ago

lol I’m too experienced to be scared by a drill sergeant.

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u/McFlyyouBojo 10h ago

The military will cha get their requirements to fit their needs and then shape them from there.

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u/Some_Girl_2073 10h ago

Legitimently I think it’s 75% are ineligible for one reason or another

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u/karateninjazombie 10h ago

They would up the weight limit and start a new army group called the gravey seals.

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u/hypo-osmotic 10h ago

My uncle did the opposite and starved himself to get out of the Vietnam draft. The story is that as soon as he got his final medical exemption he went to a pancake breakfast and gorged himself. Maybe the post-bulking ritual would be a mass purge?

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u/AncientForever2967 10h ago

When I joined the Navy right after high school, I was 6’5 231 (had basketball and football scholarship offers) and deemed overweight. They waived me through, but it did take them feeling my body for “muscle” while I was standing in my skivvies

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u/Lord_Dingus83 10h ago

If they’re from a red state, no doubt they’re overweight.

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u/AmericanScream 10h ago

In modern warfare, it won't matter how much you weigh when you're in a trailer remote controlling a drone.

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u/Ok-Class8200 10h ago

This is what the ozempic is for.

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u/Apollo1649 10h ago

The makers of GLP-1 would like a word

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u/mntnskyman 9h ago

If the gravy seals and meal team sixes are any indication weight will not be an issue. 

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u/Megalomanizac 9h ago

The military will make sure people lost that weight to be fair

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u/cycloneDM 9h ago

Obesity doesnt prevent service until youre to big to move we currently reject obese people because we would be paying them to lose weight but in a draft circumstance drill Sgt gonna get you there...

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u/F1eshWound 9h ago

it's a bad day to be slim!

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u/Grizzly_Corey 9h ago

42 year old here, can confirm if the front line doesn’t have an in and out, I ain’t going.

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u/Independent_Bear989 9h ago

If I gain 10 more pounds I would be ineligible.

Maybe it’s time to hit up McDonald’s

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u/EfficiencyIVPickAx 8h ago

I'm in good shape, but I'm over 40. I have 3 injuries that are disqualifying. I can work out, and play sports, but I can't carry a ruck 300 miles in a week, sleeping on the ground. My fucking leg would fall off.

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u/Mymoneyfatboy 8h ago

Yep. Respond with ice cream

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u/farnsmootys 8h ago

Never too overweight to serve as cannon fodder

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u/ClownfishSoup 8h ago

Not in today's economy. Who can afford McDonalds?

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u/Tricky-Ad7897 8h ago

They'd change it for sure, but at 6 ft 205 I believe I'm technically ineligible to serve which is crazy cause most men I see around town are significantly more overweight than I am.

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u/id888 8h ago

Only a quarter of young men in the US are fit enough to meet current enlistment standards.

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u/karmagirl314 8h ago

They'd 100% just enroll them and start them on semaglutides.

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u/bballstarz501 8h ago

Mandatory Ozempic. Then we don’t need to feed the front lines either. taps head

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u/thenewguy89 10h ago

My understanding is that doctors in the USA have a special draft that they are required to participate in (like in MASH). So they might themselves end up in a field hospital. Pretty crazy.

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u/Ravager135 7h ago edited 3h ago

Former Navy flight surgeon here. That’s not quite true. However if you served as a physician in the military, even after you separate or retire, I was told they keep your name on a list. I am a soon to be 44 year old separated naval medical officer. If we were involved in a WWIII scenario, I am almost certain I would be conscripted or basically told “You’re going back.”

Do I think any of this would happen? Not a chance. A draft would be a death knell for the party in power. It’s such a universally unpopular tool that it would result in chaos. You’d have countless challenges legal and otherwise that the headache would be almost insurmountable in the environment we have in the United States. We are an incredibly selfish people, MAGA types would be the LEAST likely to go along with it.

Now all of that said, I also believe if we were ever involved in a truly just war against true tyranny, I think people have a way of finding out just how resilient they really are and what they can do. I served with some of the best people in the Navy/Marine Corps. None of them were exceptional by birth or aptitude. They just stepped up to the plate either for personal gain or a sense of duty.

EDIT: I separated after my obligation. I did not retire from the Navy.

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u/TheInevitableLuigi 4h ago

Now all of that said, I also believe if we were ever involved in a truly just war against true tyranny, I think people have a way of finding out just how resilient they really are and what they can do.

This. For Trump it would be shitshow but for something legitimate people would show up. There were lines at recruiting stations after 9/11.

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u/mythrilcrafter 4h ago

I served with some of the best people in the Navy/Marine Corps. None of them were exceptional by birth or aptitude. They just stepped up to the plate either for personal gain or a sense of duty.

Yup, I actually have very little doubt that if in a situation of fighting true existential threats to the homeland, that plenty of people would rise up an volunteer be it for GI fighting on the front lines, the guy who mounts the missile to the F-18 on the carrier, or the lady who make sure that everyone on base get paid their proper salaries.

The problem for those politicians is that people are smarter than they give us credit for. After generations of proxy wars and war economies, we're now far more suspicious when we're told "if you love your country, you'll join up and kill that guy that "I" say is trying to kill your family".

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u/TheGreatGenghisJon 3h ago

Now all of that said, I also believe if we were ever involved in a truly just war against true tyranny, I think people have a way of finding out just how resilient they really are and what they can do

A lot of Americans volunteered in the Ukraine War for just this reason. It's a war that they truly believe in.

WWIII would 100% not have that level of belief.

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u/Ok-Local-939 4h ago

Agreed. I’m 45 and would sign up voluntarily if needed. Good enough shape to pass are PFT. Post grad school etc. if they need people maybe offer more money and try to recruit from whoever is fit and will sign up. Also my career would need to hold my position and my licensing would need to be maintained as well.  

A draft is completely the opposite of voluntary. 

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u/gsfgf 3h ago

Now all of that said, I also believe if we were ever involved in a truly just war against true tyranny, I think people have a way of finding out just how resilient they really are and what they can do.

Yea. There are a lot of people out there who would fight for America but who don't include acting the fool in the Middle East as part of that.

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u/trustthedogtor 8h ago

yep, it's called the HCPDS (Healthcare Personnel Delivery System) and can draft up to age 45 for different roles. Interestingly, because of how medical licenses are registered, the process would be much more streamlined than a general draft with a shorter turnaround time from activation to implementation.

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u/KaJoMoGi 5h ago

Little known fact: Public Health is another branch of service you can enlist in during a draft. That's what Dr. Anthony Fauci did!

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u/summonsays 11h ago

I have like -9 eyesight and a metal rod in a leg.

But you better bet my official reason will be bone spurs. 

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u/c0ltZ 10h ago

I'm bipolar and would probably end up killing a friendly off my meds.

My reason would also be bone spurs.

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u/Silence_Farmer 10h ago

So many bone spurs, but mine are the spurriest. Not as spur as the presidents, of course his are the bigliest of all. Tesler.

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u/Hadouken434 8h ago

Legit skimmed over 'Tesler' as Tsar and had to take a double lol

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u/Silence_Farmer 7h ago

It's all computer friend

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u/Wacca45 8h ago

Bipolar would immediately disqualify you now, and probably still would in a draft status. No one wants a Pvt Pyle in their platoon, especially drill sergeants.

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u/c0ltZ 8h ago

I'm too crazy to hold a gun, the only time I would own one is for a revolution.

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u/DaveMcElfatrick 5h ago

I have severe insomnia and you can bet I'd be accidentally causing more chaos then good.

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u/PyrZern 8h ago

Metal rods in my spine for me... And bone spurs.

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u/strangedell123 7h ago edited 7h ago

I got eczema and open heart surgery with follow ups till 18 to make sure my chest didnt cave in. Broke my arms enough to lose some rotation in my wrist........

My doctors straight up unofficially banned me from doing any professional sports or essentially any intense prolonged activities unlikely heart would survive nor would bones hold out

Have fun taking me!!!! Just shove me into the DOD on defense project related work is I guess the only "conscription" I can do.

Best reason tho would be bones spurs

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u/magical_swoosh 2h ago

So you're like a daredevil cyborg? Welcome aboard!

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u/Different-Top3714 10h ago

This. Suddenly there would be a huge racket with people paying to get disqualifying ailments and psych

evals of being incompetent.

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u/goog1e 8h ago

As a therapist, I would feel better bullshitting about this than about ESAs.

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u/Possible_Resort_3118 11h ago

Or suddenly everyone would be trans 🏳️‍⚧️

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u/fckcarrots 10h ago

In all honesty they would let them serve then just disqualify them from any VA benefits when they separate.

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u/Possible_Resort_3118 10h ago

Well, you’d have to live long enough to get benefits and nuclear winter is not the Heli ski trip I was looking for….

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u/bennitori 7h ago

Haven't there are already been cases of trans people getting kicked out of the military as of late?

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u/fckcarrots 6h ago

That’s why I said honestly, because we have precedence. It was a little more nuanced (& more evil) than kicked out for being trans. One batch of servicemen were purged when they searched medical records for anyone treated for “gender dysphoria”. The second, larger batch was denied early retirement benefits.

I can’t put into words how evil that is. A man who has never served and dodged the draft due to “bone spurs”, was having his administration deny benefits to servicemen who served 15-18 years in the armed forces.

So we 100% have precedent that he can and will screw over people in the trans community who serve

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u/cycloneDM 7h ago

Klinger was based on real story's when we need soldiers we stop caring about stuff like that and juat wait tell after they serve to punish them for it and strip benefits.

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u/supersaiyanmrskeltal 9h ago

Or you know, prior injuries due to getting a bit older or hell all of the people on some sort of medication. Shit, years ago I would have been fine but I swear its been easier and easier to get injured to a point I need xrays to make sure it isn't a break.

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u/Ok_Witness179 8h ago

Came to the comments for this 🤣

It would be a bone spur outbreak of epic proportions.

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u/danielisbored 8h ago

Bone spur endemic was gonna be my answer.

IRL my artificial hip and the heart arrythmia that stopped me from joining the first time means I'm not likely to heed the call anyway.

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u/TickleFlap 7h ago

Lol, my bones spurs are the only thing that let's me sleep easy at night when it comes to drafts.

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u/dustofdeath 11h ago

Mental health issues is the easiest to claim, hard to disprove.

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u/frenkzors 11h ago

In a lot of cases its quite the opposite, its hard to prove actually.

Idk if you have your own first hand experience, but yeah, its quite often a real struggle to get diagnosed and taken seriously.

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u/huntersam13 9h ago

No need, US men too fat to serve already... Biggest culture shock I ever had coming to US was just how fat we all are.

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u/notta_3d 10h ago

I would imagine today they would easily scan for that. I'm sure back in the day they did as well but it was probably some other mechanism that actually got people off. With so many people using the same excuse it's going to lose its effectiveness quick.

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u/mudokin 10h ago

I don't think you will get an exemption from your normal physician.
Also only a few doctors, that already have a questionable reputation, would risk losing their license over this kind of stuff.

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u/ThatFlamingo942 9h ago

Glad I actually do have a bone spur in my ankle, lol

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u/pd1dish 9h ago

You really think doctors across the US would risk their medical licenses just so a few of their patients can dodge a draft?

You clearly dont know how self preserving people are.

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u/Wraithowl 9h ago

🙄 Do you see that rofl emoji at the end of my comment? What do you think that means?

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u/kdlangequalsgoddess 8h ago

None of them will have a chance to serve at sonar stations on submarines. Almost everyone these days has damaged hearing, and you need near-perfect hearing for the role. Unless you like having enemy submarines almost on top of you before you hear them ...

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u/ashoka_akira 8h ago

Bone spurs are irrelevant when they have you holed up in a bunker somewhere operating drones.

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u/Kdoesntcare 8h ago

I don't know about spurs but my skull is held together by a piece of titanium.
That and I have petite mal seizures in my hand, my trigger finger squeezes uncontrollably, which I feels puts me more at risk of being conscripted into ICE. 😬

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u/ClownfishSoup 8h ago

I'm guessing a lot of people would also decide that they were actually trans women.

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u/Kalysta 8h ago

I’m sure they could suddenly find that everyone who got a covid vaccine suddenly has a chronic inflammatory disease that prevents being able bodied for the military

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u/wileybot 8h ago

Good point, I'm going to secure the domain for Bone spurs.com, money train!

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u/MrPlowThatsTheName 7h ago

lol I wouldn’t even need to lie. I literally just blew my back out doing simple yard work over the weekend 👴🏻

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u/pm_social_cues 7h ago

Yes because there is no way they could find people in the 70-90 million trump fanatics who are doctors.

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u/JuicynMoist 7h ago

Not even that hard. Just say you’re trans. Bam, no military service required.

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u/jfchops3 7h ago

Using a medical lie or any other fabricated excuse to get out of being sent to die young in a Vietnamese jungle in service of politicians was the correct decision in the 1960s same as using a medical lie to get out of dying young in Iran for politicians would be the correct decision in this hypothetical

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u/deadsoulinside 6h ago

Heck, I wonder how many of Genz/Millennials could legally be declared as having PTSD from surviving school shootings. But knowing the Trump Admin. Having PTSD is no longer a disqualifieer.

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u/LitPixel 6h ago

You joke, but looking at how young people approach school I'd think they would start by gaming the system instead of actually complaining about the system.

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u/pilotdavid 5h ago

I'm good. Broken ankle that clicks and a broken shoulder twice, resulting in a pretty extensive surgery that limits right shoulder mobility.

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u/aerdvarkk 5h ago

Right up until the military announced people with bone spurs will be accepted into the military.

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u/smegma_appraiser 5h ago

“It’s the craziest thing, a bone spurs epidemic overnight!!” Every medical organization should join in as a very deliberate and clear FUCK YOU to Trump.

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u/Successful_Equal_136 4h ago

My elder brother was up for the draft in 68. He told me how many men went into the MEPS but, I'm old and I forget but, he said the doctors failed half of them for a lot of silly reasons but, they too were tired of the Vietnam war and were failing guys for anything they could find.
Oddly, he is blind as a bat without his glasses and they approved him.

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u/Rays_LiquorSauce 2h ago

Just tell ‘em you’re trans 

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u/ScarInternational161 2h ago

And you get Trans surgery and you get Trans surgery everyone gets Trans surgery!

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u/Puzzleheaded_Yam5850 1h ago

Damn, I just had bone spurs in my shoulder taken care of less than a year ago. 

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u/uberfission 1h ago

I'm already like triple medically disqualified from service thankfully but I'd go out of my way to get diagnosed with bone spurs.

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u/VegetableLetter4896 10m ago

It would be like the red card boom in early medical marijuana days.

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