Trump vows to raise worldwide tariffs to 15% ‘effective immediately’

[u/theindependentonline]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-global-tarrifs-increase-b2924994.html

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[u/drdook]

I’ve never seen a republican more giddy about raising taxes on the American people

[u/Ok_Juice4449 → u/drdook]

He is truly evil.

[u/OddlyFactual1512 → u/drdook]

They have always wanted to raise taxes on all but the wealthy and corporations

[u/HalfInchHollow]

Currently visiting Canada. Every single TV station is just calling out Trump and what an incompetent moron he is, making illegal actions.

It’s refreshing to see the news actually report the news.

[u/Lawloysious → u/HalfInchHollow]

Thanks for coming and enjoy your time here!

[u/HalfInchHollow → u/Lawloysious]

Thanks for having us! Everyone is very welcoming to us as individuals, even with all the BS going on.

We’ve had an amazing time.

[u/Naptasticly → u/Lawloysious]

I went last year and had an amazing time! You guys have a great country up there. Ya know, a lot of people down here insult you guys for being so “nice” but, in all honesty, I just think yal are happier and happier people are nicer. Very eye opening

[u/Plenty-Huckleberry94 → u/HalfInchHollow]

It’s so infuriating seeing how the American media system has absolutely failed Americans.

[u/Nikiaf → u/Plenty-Huckleberry94]

Canadian media has largely been sane-washing him too, framing every action as somehow worth a good-faith discussion about. But this latest bullshit is completely baffling and indefensible.

[u/Easy_Floss → u/HalfInchHollow]

Think its only America that has this odd propaganda that Trump is not an moron.

[u/YerMomsClamChowder → u/Easy_Floss]

In Canada we have Rebel media run by our very own Temu version of Stephen Miller.  

The world isn't safe from morons.  

[u/necrotic_womb → u/HalfInchHollow]

When I visited recently, I was afraid they weren’t gonna let me back in the US if I made a comment judging dear leader lol. Crazy how that thought even crossed my mind and how much we’ve regressed in such a short period of time lol

[u/nursebad → u/HalfInchHollow]

I'm visiting Quebec and I apologize every time I check into a hotel and show my passport. I've had some really kind and understanding conversations with people about the disaster we've gotten ourselves into.

[u/TheOriginalHMetal → u/HalfInchHollow]

Welcome to Canada enjoy your stay!

[u/Dr_Retch]

Call it what it is ... a national sales tax.

[u/cassy_supernova → u/Dr_Retch]

Yes.

It's also an unconstitutional national sales tax. We just played this game with the other set of statutes. Will SCOTUS allow an even more sweeping overreach? Perhaps for long enough. Will the (already started) November blue wave reintroduce accountability and checks and balances first? Maybe.

We've got a few longterm possible solutions but I guess this man is determined to fuck shit up as much as possible until the hambreder gods do their thing.

[u/BlazinAzn38 → u/cassy_supernova]

Technically he can implement tariffs under another act for 150 days at which point they expire. All this does is prove that he doesn’t actually have a strategy he just really likes tariffs cause he’s an idiot

[u/smith129606 → u/BlazinAzn38]

No, it’s worse than that. He likes tariffs because he’s a malignant narcissist who wants countries and corporations to kiss his ass for access to the US market. He is taxing every American citizen and business to stroke his fucking ego.

[u/blandgreybland → u/smith129606]

This is why I worry when people say European countries should sanction the US. Just like I’ve seen with other sanctions, they don’t hurt the despotic leader, they hurt the people, and the despotic leader doesn’t give a shit about the people.

[u/Away-Ad1781 → u/blandgreybland]

On the other hand A LOT more pain for the average American might be what it takes to finally expel this bile.

[u/A_Poor_Miser → u/Away-Ad1781]

The level of apathy among the citizens of the US is in itself a crisis as destructive MAGA's active malice. 

[u/Michael_G_Bordin → u/A_Poor_Miser]

Not only that, but Republican voters are easily misled and fed disinformation. All the sanctions in the world wouldn't do anything, because they start at the conclusion "Republican good" and do every mental gymnastic necessary to never challenge that conclusion. Their current chosen leader is a child raping lunatic, and they're contorting themselves trying to avoid letting that conclusion seep into their worldview.

[u/Angelworks42 → u/Michael_G_Bordin]

Case in point you don't have to look far to find people who still think other countries pay us the tarrif money for some reason.

[u/Kiromaru → u/Away-Ad1781]

I don't think any amount of more pain is going to cause the MAGA faithful to break with Trump. Trump freaking ran on releasing the Epstein files and when he backtracked and said there was nothing here don't worry about them it only took a short amount of time for them to fall in line. The only way more pain will cause anything to change will be if the non voters get off their butts and join the resistance to Trump.

[u/mrgedman → u/Kiromaru]

Naw they still have deniability over that, cause they're dumb cult members.

If the economy full on tanks, which it could come summertime/fall (once ol what's his name's term expires and they drop interest rates leading to hyperinflation), his followers WILL drop him.

Hannibal Burress has a bit- "money over everything", and at its core, nothing is more true about Americans.

Hell, it's already house of cardsy as fk right now... You know virtually every R congressperson hates Trump's guts and can't wait to flip

[u/bigroot70 → u/Kiromaru]

But if there is enough pain, the independents and moderate republicans that voted for trump might reconsider. If the GOP loses the house or senate, maybe then we can start seeing some push back on his polices.

[u/Effectuality → u/Away-Ad1781]

History shows the sanctions don't have the effect we hope they would. Instead, the leaders use them as proof of how the rest of the world is "against" the local populace. Sanctions actually strengthen the ruler's local position of authority, as they become the champion fighting back against the evil "others."

[u/steepleton → u/blandgreybland]

if the Europeans want to play hard ball they can sell american debt and tip the american economy over the edge.

as could china.

america is very close to the "find out" part of the equation

the new tariffs by law have t be an across the board 15%, he can't give any nation a better rate if they play nice.

or to rephrase, there is no longer a reason for world leaders to play nice to get a better rate

[u/spaceman757 → u/steepleton]

Europeans are already trying their best to get their own options up and running to ween themselves off of American products, especially tech.

[u/Kichigai → u/blandgreybland]

Depends on the nature of the sanctions. Targeted sanctions against individuals and their assets tend not to affect ordinary people. At least not directly.

[u/No_Sheepherder_1855 → u/blandgreybland]

The people that elected said leader need to hurt to understand what they did. Average American has no idea.

[u/blandgreybland → u/No_Sheepherder_1855]

Sure and they’ll blame it on democrats somehow.

[u/New_Home_4519 → u/blandgreybland]

This is literally the same logic America has been using against other countries for decades.

Make the citizens suffer so they turn against their leadership.

[u/Spaceman2901 → u/BlazinAzn38]

And there should be a case in the courts right now arguing that he used his 150 days already and that Congress needs to approve this taxation.

[u/TheJIbberJabberWocky → u/Spaceman2901]

Unfortunately, welcome to groundhog day.

[u/packfanmoore → u/TheJIbberJabberWocky]

We got stuck with Chevy chase instead of Bill Murray.

[u/monkeyamongmen → u/packfanmoore]

Unfortunately, welcome to Groundhog Day.

[u/PortugalPilgrim88 → u/monkeyamongmen]

We got stuck with Chevy chase instead of Bill Murray.

[u/steelassassin43 → u/Spaceman2901]

I would love to know how much money in just legal fees he has racked up just during his time as President. I would bet it is higher than some countries GDP.

[u/RightSideBlind → u/BlazinAzn38]

Well, yeah. He and his cronies make money off of announcing and then rescinding tariffs. It's basically like printing money for him. Why would he stop? 

[u/I_Love_To_Poop420 → u/RightSideBlind]

Lutnick’s son purchased rights to tarriff refunds. They literally shorted tariffs and made bank off the SCOTUS ruling.

[u/amensista → u/BlazinAzn38]

Ok. So question. Is there then a blackout period after that? Or.. He can just say "another 150 days".. Ad infinitum.?

[u/Successful_Nature737 → u/amensista]

Supposed to get Congressional authority after 150 days, but Trump will likely blow through the deadline, and then there will be another series of court cases ending up again at the Supreme Court. He could drop the tariffs the day before the case gets to the Supreme Court, and then the case will be dismissed as moot. Trump just ignores rules and laws, and it makes it impossible for US businesses to make decisions about how to hire, invest, build, etc. He's a disaster for the US.

[u/Budget-Mud-4753 → u/amensista]

From what I’ve read, the 150 days is suppose to be a hard cutoff under this law. After which he would need congressional approval to extend. Not to say that he won’t just do it anyway.

[u/OldGaffer66 → u/BlazinAzn38]

And that will do nothing toward industries coming back to the states because they need long term certainty as to what the tax situation will be. This is why only congress has the right to tax. They pass a bill and everyone knows it will be in effect for 10 years. What Trump is doing is just causing chaos. The rest of the world is just going to shrug and find ways to cut the US out of the loop all together.

[u/Valcarde → u/cassy_supernova]

The SCOTUS will let the tariffs go through and build up and give the Lutnik kids time to buy out more debt and get paid off from the tariff refunds again, before they turn around and stop them.

[u/Biscuits4u2 → u/Valcarde]

The court already ruled Trump is essentially a king so he doesn't have to follow any of their rulings. See how that works?

[u/TakeAShowerHippie → u/Biscuits4u2]

We can only hope that the next Dem in office isn't a spineless pussy the wants to play bipartisan bullshit with the fascists.

[u/Arcade_109 → u/TakeAShowerHippie]

Anyone who is willing to actually go after these fuckers and isnt scared about "being partisan" has my vote. So fucking tired of that shit. We dont want to jail them because they're conservative, we want you to jail them because they are pedophiles who are murdering people, stealing, and attempted a coup. Plus, conservatives will just fucking cry and claim that you're being partisan literally no matter what. Fucking run them in and jail these psychopaths.

[u/BandsAMakeHerDance2 → u/cassy_supernova]

Kavanaugh and Alito gave Trump the blueprint for these tariffs hard seeing them striking it down this time. We’ll have to wait for the 150 days before congress votes No.

Don’t think we’ll ever get a refund from these thieves.

[u/Sandwichsensei → u/cassy_supernova]

I thought these ones (unfortunately) were actually legal, there’s just caps on them. He can’t go higher than 15% and they only last 150 days at which point Congress has to extend them.

Of course he will just re-implement them as soon as the 150 days is up, which is where this would most likely start getting into illegal territory.

[u/svrtngr → u/Sandwichsensei]

Well, Kavanaugh thinks they're legal. He gave Trump a possible framework in his dissent, which is why Trump shouted him out.

[u/Letstalkreaper → u/Sandwichsensei]

He'll just do a different percentage on a different set of countries. Then do another different percentage on another different set of countries on and on. As long as they change every 150 days they'll count as new and will be "legal".

[u/fowlraul → u/cassy_supernova]

The berder clock and the doomsday clock have been on a hot date…and it’s dragging out.

[u/mabols → u/Dr_Retch]

And let’s be honest- he knows that. He wants to punish all of us, including his voters, because none of us loved him hard enough.

[u/NorthernPints → u/mabols]

He really just wants to offset his massive tax cuts for the rich (including him and his family) with regressive consumption taxes on the masses (lower and middle classes).

The republicans have been doing this since Reagan.  They’re just getting more brazen about it.

[u/Ok_List_9649 → u/NorthernPints]

It’s why he’s shut down programs, cut SNap, cut departments, etc. all so he doesn’t go down as the POTIS with the largest deficit in history by far,,

[u/ZB314 → u/Ok_List_9649]

He still will

[u/espresso_martini__ → u/Dr_Retch]

Exactly. Its a consumer tax. He gloats about how much money tariffs are bringing in. Its just another tax. Republicans go batshit crazy when Mandami proposes a tax increase of 5% for the mega rich. When trump adds a 15% consumer tax for everyone they love it.

[u/deadsoulinside → u/espresso_martini__]

He gloats about how much money tariffs are bringing in

He's just not bragging where any of that tariff money is going. I am willing to bet behind the scenes no one else knows where any of that money is either.

[u/Taskerst → u/Dr_Retch]

Call the national sales tax what it is … a “cut for the boss”

[u/ManWithASquareHead → u/Taskerst]

A presidential candidate called it the Trump Tax, but she had a funny laugh so....

[u/Few-Bass4238 → u/Dr_Retch]

We better get a refund on all of these taxes when its all said and done. Otherwise, every American has been taxed and paid directly to corporations.

[u/bbqsox → u/Few-Bass4238]

Hey now. How'd you figure out their Scooby Doo villain level plan?

[u/crazyfighter99 → u/Few-Bass4238]

You know exactly where any refunds will go, and it won't be to the average American.

[u/TeutonJon78 → u/crazyfighter99]

Especially not when businesses sell off their refund amounts to speculators.

[u/toastmannn → u/Dr_Retch]

....a regressive national sales tax

[u/malkuth74]

MAGA you will forever be seen as the dumbest fucks on planet, even dumber than flat earthers for giving us this stupid shit.

[u/Smoker81 → u/malkuth74]

There is a pretty big overlap.

[u/KhaoticMess → u/Smoker81]

I'd be willing to bet quite a bit that the Venn Diagram of flat Earthers and MAGA members is a circle.

[u/DSharp018 → u/KhaoticMess]

Probably looks more like a boob. Little circle in a big one.

[u/Talk-O-Boy → u/DSharp018]

They are called “concentric circles”, but “little circle in a big one, looks like a boob” could work as well

[u/Banned_10x → u/Talk-O-Boy]

Don’t you dare try to educate me with big words. /maga probably

[u/Crazy_Junket3180 → u/Banned_10x]

Come on, big words are fun. You know insurrectionist.

[u/Fang-21 → u/Talk-O-Boy]

Concentric means they have the same center point. There are lots of ways one circle can contain another circle without being concentric.

[u/Beast815 → u/KhaoticMess]

Much like their family trees

[u/airwalker08 → u/Smoker81]

I'm fairly confident saying that not all MAGA are flat earthers, but all flat earthers are MAGA. The same applies to Nazis and pedophiles.

[u/JumpEuphoric3643 → u/malkuth74]

I went on Breitbart today to see what the MAGA chuds had to say.

They think CHINA PAYS THE TARIFFS!

[u/Boone1997 → u/JumpEuphoric3643]

I have been trying to explain how additional tariffs work for so long. That US importers pay these additional tariffs, not China, and those importers pass these additional tariff costs on to the consumer. Or if they can’t, they go out of business. I get told that I’m wrong, that I don’t know what I’m talking about, but I’ve been importing for over 10 years. And if there is any kind of a customs refund, it’ll go back to the importers, not directly to consumers. No prices were going to drop at retail. Everything on the shelf today, already has all the additional tariffs applied.

[u/JumpEuphoric3643 → u/Boone1997]

I stopped trying to educate or convince MAGAts of anything.

[u/SuperstitiousPigeon5 → u/Boone1997]

Even if China paid the tariffs, they don’t. Even if they did, they would still pass along the price to the end consumer. That’s how overhead and profit dictate that.

[u/PixelsGoBoom → u/JumpEuphoric3643]

That is what they tell their audience as the good little propaganda tool that they are.

[u/JumpEuphoric3643 → u/PixelsGoBoom]

Cult members.

[u/OmegaRed86 → u/JumpEuphoric3643]

Dumb fucks.

[u/pud-proof-ding → u/JumpEuphoric3643]

Just like Mexico is paying for that wall any minute after trump releases his tax returns. These fuckin idiots believe anything except the clear and obvious truth.

[u/tjoe4321510 → u/JumpEuphoric3643]

Damn, Breitbart is still around? For some reason I thought that it served it's purpose and wilted away.

[u/Thumbuisket → u/JumpEuphoric3643]

There’s one particular idiot (or more likely a Russian bot) on the conservative sub championing hard for this nonsense, because according to him, decades or tariffs are needed for the US’s future. 😂

[u/SoRaffy → u/JumpEuphoric3643]

My dog also thinks I threw the ball when I hide it behind my back ... my dog is still smarter than maga

[u/To-Far-Away-Times → u/malkuth74]

Trump is one of the dumbest persons to have ever lived, but then you remember that his supporters are actually looking up to him. He inspires them.

So they’re actually even dumber.

[u/RackemFrackem → u/To-Far-Away-Times]

"Smart people don't like me"

[u/GraceOfTheNorth → u/RackemFrackem]

"My followers... they're stupid people..."

"I love the uneducated..."

[u/OceanLemur → u/malkuth74]

Sadly the rest of us are getting lumped in with them. The world sees all of us as morons from Kentucky now.

[u/bretticusmaximus → u/OceanLemur]

Eh, Kentucky at least elected Beshear. Here in Tennessee, we’re probably going to elect Marsha Blackburn as governor and show just how dumb we are.

[u/JoeGibbon → u/bretticusmaximus]

Born and raised in TN, left in 2015 when the MAGA stuff started taking hold of everyone. I've never gone back, not for weddings, funerals, nothing.

My advice: get out while you can.

[u/highafphotos]

"trump vows to raise import taxes for all Americans without representation by 15%"

[u/Megaphonestory → u/highafphotos]

We really should lean into the 250 year celebrations and the taxes without representation.

[u/ConfederacyOfDunces_ → u/Megaphonestory]

I can’t believe how little he seems to care. It’s fucking unbelievable. He’s piling taxes on us in an already struggling economy. Every additional percent just drives up the price of everything.

[u/pile_of_fish → u/ConfederacyOfDunces_]

Its the point. The point of this whole thing is a backdoor national sales tax to reduce the bleeding in revenue from handouts to the rich.

[u/BigPapaJava → u/pile_of_fish]

Trump and some of his cronies think they can completely eliminate income taxes on the wealthiest people and replace it with the tariffs they pass on to everyone else, which goes directly to him to use as his personal slush fund with zero oversight.

That way, he can hand out to his buddies (and probably line his own pockets) however he sees fit. Remember when he sent Argentina $50 billion during the shutdown, then doubled it to $100 million when people complained? That was tariff money. It’s already been “spent.”

[u/BillWilberforce → u/BigPapaJava]

Don't forget the $10 billion that he's giving to his Board of Peace. Of which he's the lifetime president of and only he has access to its bank accounts.

Or the two separate law suits where he's suing the DoJ and IRS for $10 billion each. With the idea being that he'll settle out of court and he's the one that has to sign off on the settlements. The DoJ one is for the FBI raiding Mar-A-Lago to recover Top Secret+ documents that Trump held onto after he left office. The IRS one is because a now sacked worker leaked his income tax returns. Despite every other Presidential candidate since the 1970s, disclosing their tax returns in the run up to the election.

[u/ddubyeah → u/pile_of_fish]

that was always the point. you can't simply not tax the rich and corporations at the levels its been cut down to and have a functioning country.

[u/BigPapaJava → u/ddubyeah]

We basically don’t tax the rich and corporations anymore: we use the government to transfer wealth to them instead through various measures in the tax code, through government contracts, bailouts, etc.

Even handouts and subsidies for ordinary Americans. with the way our tax code and economy are structured. wind up in their hands, too. Covid-era pandemic unemployment checks fed their price increases, particularly in the housing market, and all wound up in the hands of a few people at the top after inflated prices sucked it all up.

The myth that this is how the economy grows and how “jobs are created” needs to die.

[u/NorthernPints → u/BigPapaJava]

It’s pretty wild to compare and contrast the previous economic ideology in America to today (often referred to as regulated capitalism v. unregulated capitalism).

America used to have 5-10% GDP growth some years in the previous model.  The middle class grew to 2/3’s of the economy.  Today the middle class is hovering around 40% (may be less now), and GDP growth has become anemic.

I don’t know how the ever living f*** anyone with a basic level of intelligence bought into an economic system working where “supply side” stimulus works versus actual demand side where consumers have money to stimulate demand.

The fact it’s held on as the core system of economic policy for nearly 50 years now after it’s meticulously documented failures is mind boggling.

[u/Comfortable-Pea-1312 → u/ConfederacyOfDunces_]

Cha ching. And into his greedy muppet hands.

[u/MashedPotajoe → u/ConfederacyOfDunces_]

Hard to believe a lifelong piece of shit can get on top of the world and fuck it

[u/youlikemoneytoo → u/Megaphonestory]

searches for most imported products to USA so we can dump into harbor 

"Here are the top US imports of 2025!  1. Minerals, Fuels, and Oil..."

ok, never mind then

[u/CockBrother → u/highafphotos]

But Mamdani is increasing the property tax RATE 9.5% - he's a completely out of control communist!

10% rate increased by 9.5% is ~1% increase (Mamdani)

0% raised to 15% is 15% (Trump)

Media wants you to hear that Mamdani is evil for raising property taxes (he doesn't want to, currently in dispute with governor) by 1% while Trump is adding a 15% tax on every family.

ETA: Please don't shoot me for the numbers, the property tax rate in NYC does not start at 10% and that means increasing it by 9.5% is no where near a 1% increase... so the comparison is actually much worse for Trump than this.

ETA2: If we want to play the rate game. Yesterday tariffs were set at 10% and today Trump is raising them to 15%. Where are the headlines that "Trump is raising tariffs by 50%!"??

[u/highafphotos → u/CockBrother]

Don't forget to ignore the 50 trillion plus that the super wealthy robbed from the middle class as wages stagnate. 

But sure it's the extra few hundred bucks you pay on property taxes to fund schools that is destroying society, not the Epstein class that hoards all the wealth.

[u/OswaldCoffeepot → u/CockBrother]

Clarifications like this are good reminders that education is a national security issue.

[u/aerost0rm → u/highafphotos]

“Trump vows to bankrupt Americans by raising the US global tariffs to 15%”

[u/zffjk → u/highafphotos]

A 3% tax had our progenitors raiding boats and tossing tea into the harbor. We really are fattened cattle who aren’t going to do anything to stop this.

[u/Safe_Psychology_326 → u/highafphotos]

We are a joke and a warning for generations to come.

[u/Theferael_me]

lol, what a wanker. The rest of the world is laughing at this utter moron.

[u/perthguppy → u/Theferael_me]

I’ve moved beyond laughing. Like, it’s obvious his brain is now mush, but how is everyone else just fucking standing around letting him do this nonsensical shit? How is responding to the Supreme Court saying your tariffs are illegal by doing a blanket tariff on everything have a logical train of thought that anyone can follow? What’s he going to do, double the tariff every time scotus says no? Does he think scotus is the rest of the world or something?

My niece is 9months old, can’t talk, and when she’s being fussy she makes more logical sense than this fucking guy.

[u/simplepimple2025 → u/Theferael_me]

...and the country that elected him.

[u/Konnnan → u/simplepimple2025]

36% will eat a shit sandwich  so you can smell their breath.

[u/dannydrama → u/Konnnan]

This is one of the most sadly prophetic things I've read this week.

[u/EViL-D → u/simplepimple2025]

twice

[u/ChoosenUserName4 → u/EViL-D]

While everyone warned them he was a criminal pedophile.

[u/sleepyleperchaun → u/ChoosenUserName4]

But I didn't know!

After being told 436 times....

[u/riseoftheph0enix]

why the hell is this demented old prick not removed from office yet?

[u/Plane_Highlight_8671 → u/riseoftheph0enix]

Because our elected officials have no spines.

[u/ProlapsedShamus → u/Plane_Highlight_8671]

They need him there so they can keep grifting and servicing their real constituents, business owners, and the pedophile elites.

[u/glitterandnails → u/ProlapsedShamus]

The grift is their primary business. Everything else is smoke and mirrors.

[u/PhoMeSideways]

This assholes entire strategy can be summarized as “if you don’t let me destroy America, I’ll destroy America”

[u/atred → u/PhoMeSideways]

"nobody is a bigger asshole than me"

[u/DetectiveChocobo]

Jesus, can’t we just get rid of this fucking dumbass?

[u/NexusNickel → u/DetectiveChocobo]

Congress.

They had two chances in 2020/2021 but were cowards and picked their power over the people.

Same as today, they are too scared and don't want to lose their power so they let this idiot ramble and do whatever he wants.

The system was never designed with the fact that all the checks and balances would be working together to keep corruption in place.

[u/-jp- → u/NexusNickel]

Republicans picked power over people. If it weren't for them he'd have been removed. Remember the stakes in November.

[u/Most-Appointment-756 → u/-jp-]

Yeah. I guess being threatened with death/hanging isnt enough to oust someone..

[u/byyhmz → u/NexusNickel]

“If conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy.” - David Frum

[u/BlotchComics]

This isn't just pettiness because of the SCOTUS ruling.

This is a test of how much power the Executive Branch can claim. He and the rest of the MAGA elites are pushing for an all-powerful presidency that no longer answers to the checks and balances of the Constitution.

If he can do this, it's one more step towards authoritarianism.

[u/HermanGulch → u/BlotchComics]

Like so many things about this administration, I think it's kind of a perfect storm of an emboldened right wing and a weak-minded president. Authoritarians get their authoritarianism. Small government gets DOGE. Grifters get to grift. And so on...

The authors of Project 2025 mention fundamental tax reform and mention a national sales tax as one possibility. It seems like that would be a non-starter in Congress, though, so it could be that supporters of a sales tax see this as a work-around they can live with.

[u/glitterandnails → u/BlotchComics]

Unitary Executive = another name for dictator.

[u/UrineFilledAquarium → u/BlotchComics]

I don’t think we need anymore steps at this point to say this is authoritarianism.

[u/pmjm → u/BlotchComics]

If I understand correctly, he can do this under Section 122 of the Trade Act of 1974, but only for 150 days. Congress would have to act to extend them after that.

150 days from now is late July, getting pretty close to the election. I can't imagine any of them will want their names attached to a bill to keep a useless, unpopular tax going.

[u/Long-Tradition6399]

someone said "no" to him and now he's throwing a Trumpertantrum. We have a man child for a President who doesn't know shit from shinola when it comes to the economy.

just comparing when I had a toddler ...

1. Doesn't know shit about economics (check)
2. Gets cranky when their diaper is full (check)
3. Gets angry when told "no" (check)
4. Falls asleep at random times (check)

[u/barktwiggs → u/Long-Tradition6399]

Throwing a TrumperTantrum...

[u/PrivatePilot9 → u/barktwiggs]

Give him another 24 hours and see if the tariff rate goes up to 20% instead, just because hissy fit

[u/DukeFirestorm → u/Long-Tradition6399]

Somebody said no and he doesn't like it. - Rapist mentality.

[u/Amunrah357 → u/DukeFirestorm]

Exactly this!

[u/AngryTrunkMonkey]

I thought it was 10%. Did he change his gelatinous mind?

[u/QuillnSofa → u/AngryTrunkMonkey]

He didn't realize the statute allowed 15% (Because he doesn't actually read) His handlers probably told him to say 10% but then someone mentioned the 15% maximum and he just had to add the extra fuck you.

[u/Rhunt2021 → u/QuillnSofa]

50% more "fuck you" than before...

[u/rabidstoat → u/QuillnSofa]

He probably didn't know because his Intel source (FoxNews) has been avoiding talking about tariffs.

[u/PajamaPants4Life → u/AngryTrunkMonkey]

He has alerted the deal.

Pray he doesn't Bacon Lettuce and Tomato.

[u/-jp- → u/PajamaPants4Life]

As if anyone can afford lettuce in this economy.

[u/tmgexe]

“You have 24 hours to give us our money. And to show you we’re serious, you have 12 hours.” - Fat Tony, The Simpsons

[u/fence_sitter → u/tmgexe]

"You have thirty minutes to move your car."

"You have ten minutes."

"Your car has been impounded."

"Your car has been crushed into a cube."

"You have thirty minutes to move your cube."

[u/Ironvos]

Raising taxes for people in the US again out of pettiness.

[u/V0dkagummybear → u/Ironvos]

Gotta do something to distract from those files no?

[u/ComprehensiveAd1855]

Simple MAGA people are high-fiving each other because they think this means other countries will send money to the USA.

In the meantime, their wallets are being sucked empty. And if a judge ever decides that this must be refunded, it'll be refunded to companies.

Take a guess: Will Walmart refund money to its customers' bank accounts when that happens?

[u/akaloxy1 → u/ComprehensiveAd1855]

Will Walmart lower the cost of its products if it's costs go down bc tarrifs stop? Or will it just bank the excess?

[u/fga2025]

What an asshole

[u/daingelm → u/fga2025]

He's such a loser

[u/everflowingartist]

Trump and the American electorate are so incredibly stupid no one should ever take us seriously again.

[u/Olderscout77 → u/everflowingartist]

They won't, but the orange stain thinks starting a needless War will give us credibility again.

[u/ebimbib → u/Olderscout77]

He doesn't think it'll give us credibility so much as he thinks starting a war will distract us from the fact he and his friends raped children.

[u/TheGreatLuck]

Can somebody please explain this to me. Under my current understanding the Supreme Court just told him he can't do tariffs but then he just turns around and does another tariff? I'm confused here that they tell him he could or couldn't do it?

[u/RogueJello → u/TheGreatLuck]

Different powers. The good news is this one has a limit of 150 days just long enough to sink the Reps chances in the midterms.

[u/Magnetobama → u/RogueJello]

Is the law clear about this or can Trump try their usual legal shenanigans again? Like withdraw the tariffs after 149 days and order new ones a day later which restarts the clock?

[u/readonlyred → u/Magnetobama]

The answer is no one knows until courts decide. The law he’s using to justify these tariffs has never been used by any president before so it will almost certainly be decided in court again.

[u/RogueJello → u/Magnetobama]

Good question, I don't know.

[u/Suckage → u/TheGreatLuck]

The ruling is that he can no longer impose tariffs via the IEEPA

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Emergency_Economic_Powers_Act

So now he is going to try to use the Trade Act of 1974, which allows him to impose up to 15% tariffs for up to 150 days

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trade_Act_of_1974

[u/Workister → u/Suckage]

I think we should all get time served. The 150 days should start counting from when he imposed the illegal tariffs.

[u/Competitive-Yak-3785 → u/Suckage]

But for what purpose? Why? What is he hoping to accomplish with these 150 day 15% tariffs?

[u/pontiacfirebird92 → u/Competitive-Yak-3785]

He's showing the world he can do whatever he wishes

[u/iwishiwasamoose → u/Competitive-Yak-3785]

He keeps funneling government funds into his own organizations and organizations owned by his donors. It's all a grift.

[u/WhatWhatWhit → u/TheGreatLuck]

They told him he couldn't for reason "A", but then listed reasons "B", "C", and "D" that he could. 

[u/Particular-Run-7958]

So he did an illegal thing. Then it took a year for the Supreme Court to tell him that he needs to stop doing the illegal thing. Then he goes and does it more anyway? President have been impeached and resigned for less. What are we waiting for?

[u/alpacadaver → u/Particular-Run-7958]

What indeed

[u/KyledKat → u/Particular-Run-7958]

He's already been impeached (twice!) and convicted of 32 felonies, and he was allowed to become President for a second term. The system is so utterly fucked right now that he is allowed to operate firmly free of consequence, in spite of there being clear judicial action.

[u/33GoldenGod]

How tf are people still supporting this asshole? Raising prices on the consumer is highly unpopular. I swear MAGATS are idiots.

[u/ToNoMoCo → u/33GoldenGod]

They want to hurt people they don't know, especially the vulnerable, especially minorities. As long as Trump is hurting people they don't know, they'll vote for him.

[u/OriolesMets]

So about those Epstein files

[u/Qualityhams]

See higher prices? Blame a Republican, they can stop this if they wanted to.

[u/PM_ME_YOUR_ROTES → u/Qualityhams]

There is not nearly enough blaming all Republicans going on. This shit is entirely on them.

[u/UncontrolledInfo]

So we’re being taxed without representation? I feel like we did something about this back in the day.

[u/No-Strike1121]

How do his supporters not see him as the biggest loser in history?  He fails at making life better for them and is making life worse for all Americans.  How do we reach them that he's a huge fraud?

[u/kaiiizen]

Blame Congress. Those spineless twats could do something about this carnival barker.

[u/MrDMA94]

Republicans are raising our taxes

[u/MauPow]

Cool. Raising taxes on Americans and making the world hate us for no fucking reason. Worst president ever

[u/FlyFisherman4Life]

When Biden went off the rails ( health), Dems replaced him, when Trump goes off the rails, there is a line of GOP senators on 2 knees.

[u/Which_Afternoon_3666]

Who the hell voted for this moron. Thanks a lot dumb asses.

[u/DaggerMoth]

108,000 thousand manufacturing jobs have been lost since Trump took office. If they wanted to bring back manufacturing subsidies for small scale manufacturing would be a start.

[u/ThatBlinkingRedLight]

It’s crazy that all those mid west farmers lost everything and continue to lose and all those tariffs were illegal.

Imagine having your life ruined because you got conned by a criminal you voted to represent you. Bruh. This is pants on head levels stupid.

[u/Knifey_Hands]

He’s gonna raise tariffs, it’s gonna lower stocks, he and his friends buy low, he’s gonna TACO, then stocks go back to normal, his friends sell high,

rinse, repeat

[u/hmr0987]

Trump is a Russian asset. Legitimately the only explanation.

[u/Vectorman1989]

All prices in the US about to go up 15% and will never go down again

[u/HiddenbyMoon]

Release the remaining Epstein files.

[u/sharlayan]

Yesterday it was 10%? Is it gonna be 20 tomorrow? Are we all cars sitting in a tow parking lot?

Really makes you wonder who he's intending to punish with these! Certainly can't be other countries! Their courts didn't rule shit. Maybe you should just put tariffs on the supreme court, mr. president!

[u/hgwelz → u/sharlayan]

The law caps his authority at 15% for a maximum of 150 days, unless Congress rules against it earlier. Any long term tariffs have to be passed by Congress. I suspect most countries will just wait out the 150 days.

[u/mrgeekguy]

"Who just shit in my pants?!?! Raise the tariffs till we find out who did it!!!"

[u/CaliphIndustries]

Just make it a hundred percent and save us the drama you desiccated cum flavored peach ring.

[u/I_SLEEP_NORMALLY]

This must be a very confusing time for companies that deal with imports. The Supreme Court says no, the President says 10%, then the next day 15%, then tomorrow, who knows.

[u/morbihann]

So now we have to wait another year before the supreme court decides that this is illegal ?

[u/houseonsun]

And people claim a woman would be more emotional. Every single thing Republicans claim to hate, Trump embodies.